Re: [gctechspace] PC power cords

From: Ing. Walter H.
Sent on: Thursday, June 28, 2012 2:17 PM
I'd love to pop in on Sunday but can't commit yet.
Tomorrow and Saturday I can
Walter


On[masked]:01, BW~Merlin wrote:
Are you able to make it to the Sunday Techspace hang out?  Or you can always hit me up on MSN/IRC.


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To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [gctechspace] PC power cords
Date: Wed, 27 Jun[masked]:57:27 -0400

OK! Let's have a look at what can be done (better) re recycling.
Q:
Where & when?
I live in north-western Helensvale, nearly Coomera / Oxenford & late arvo / evening suits me nearly any day.

cu
Walter

On[masked]:15, BW~Merlin wrote:
Walter and Dave we should talk about this.  In the mean time do you want me to bring all the cords down to the space or just 20 to be used for various appliances around the space?


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To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [gctechspace] PC power cords
Date: Wed, 27 Jun[masked]:48:21 -0400


Yep - Vultures, Cowboys & day light robbery. It's the wild wild west where everything is possible.

The e-recyclers seem to be cowboys with experience. Big words on how they do the right thing. All Blah-blah & ISO certified which means translated that they hide their mess behind a wall of paper where all the Teas are dotted (that must be mildew) and all Eyes are crossed (after reading it all). Full paper defence, so that the blame lies with the government in a few years which didn't care now as that is after the current legislation period. Same mess in most democracies ;)

All that e-recyclers seem to do is get money from believers for transporting stuff from A-to-B by using their existing garbage truck system. Cost: 1 web-site!

Export of old electronics was clamped down by the government years ago for dubious reasons. That's what got me stuck with a trailer load a year after playing big looser with solar . . . ;(

But by researching what is done elsewhere and then simply doing a lot better than anybody else, one doesn't have to be Vulture, Cowboy or day light robber. Well - I think there is an opportunity.

Tnx
Walter



On[masked]:13, David Tangye wrote:
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Ing. Walter Hartmann <[address removed]> wrote:
Are accepted and according to an on-site employee a few weeks ago,  . . .
it goes to landfill.
I was afraid that might be the case. Recycling will be the next big national scam, as plenty of cowboys set up "businesses" and do exactly that. They will be the same shysters that were into solar a couple of years back, and home insulation before that, etc.
 
Finding out the truth is a challenge sometimes. I'm sure I don't know for sure ;)
Walter


On[masked]:34, David Tangye wrote:
From ANZRP - Australia and New Zealand Recycling Platform are signed up to the Federal recycling initiative They currently link to Planet Ark, whose current local  free e-waste recyclers are:

Helensvale waste and recycling centre

Address: Helensvale Road, Helensvale, 4212, QLD

Phone: (07) [masked]
Email: [address removed]

The following items are accepted:

  • Computers & Accessories
  • Other Electronics
  • Batteries - Single Use
  • Batteries - Rechargeable

Opening hours:

7.00am-4.50pm Open seven days a week except Good Friday and Christmas Day

Fees and charges:

Do not apply


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:13 PM, David Tangye <[address removed]> wrote:
Also, once we get out Space and shelving organised, I have in mind to start a Freecycle meeting at the space, and also to have these e-recyclers collecting our waste regularly, perhaps monthly.

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:07 PM, David Tangye <[address removed]> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:19 PM, BW~Merlin <[address removed]> wrote:
We could call ourselves gold coast bin scabs.  But seriously I have thought that there is lot of money to be made in recycling (anyone want to start a business with me? :P).

We have looked at this already. Main issues:
  1. A group of people to devote serious time to it.
  2. Space to keep stuff, and the above people devoting constant time to keep that space clean and tidy.
  3. Whatever is set up might eventually dovetail into the national e-waste scheme, although that is as likely as not to be several years away. Announced in 2009 "After years of discussion and debate, there has been a breakthrough on dealing with electronic waste... From 2010, the federal government will set up a national e-waste scheme, aiming to recycle 80% of all TVs and computers by 2021." "The ACT will become the first state or territory to implement a new e-waste recycling scheme from May 15."





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