Wow, a world in which the National Science Foundation has the budget of
the NSA. Or in which my employer, the Wikimedia Foundation, has a
thousand times the budget. It is hard to imagine!

(By the way, if you haven't logged into Wikipedia recently, try logging
in and turning on Beta Features to see some cool stuff we're trying out.)

-Sumana

On 04/16/[masked]:04 AM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote:
> This conversation could really become a heated debate, and so I want to remind everyone to be respectful of each other's opinions before it gets heated. :)
> 
> And to side with imagination.... imagine an organization under control of the U.S. government with the power of the NSA math and science wise, doing actual good for the world. I'd very much love to be apart of that, more so than some stupid startup.
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> On April 16,[masked]:54:00 AM PDT, "mıke castleman" <[address removed]> wrote:
>> We can, of course. But—especially if we want the country to remain 
>> ‘free’—should we?
>>
>>
>> On April 16,[masked]:48:15 AM Natalie Podrazik <[address removed]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, but it's a free country.  We can work for startups, Wall
>> Street, 
>>> defense, nobody, anybody, everybody.  
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:21 AM, A. Jesse Jiryu Davis 
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>>> +1. I haven't noticed intelligence and defense employers at meetups
>> yet, 
>>> myself. But I'm mostly active in NYC. In any case I've read reports
>> that 
>>> the NSA's "morale" is down and they can't hire:
>>>
>>>
>> https://www.washin...­
>>>
>>> So I'd expect more active recruiting from them.
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