Grand Canyon: 10/02-10/10 - Columbus Weekend - $275

Pay the Full Amount Now! - $275.00

Note that RVSP does not guarantee you a spot. Payment does.  Also note that you will be in Group B (camping). Group A is full

Group A: Backpacking - six people with permits - Renu, Mo, Tom, Johnny, Hans, Aidin - Full
Group B: Camping - six people without permits - Sonia, Joe, Cat, Alberto

Cost: 3 nights in hotels + 4 nights of camping + 7 days of car rental = $275.

Who: First and foremost, your safety is your responsibility.

Second, this is my first trip that I restrict participants to be advanced hikers. Since you won't be with me most of the times, I can't make sure you alright, and it would be unfair to ask others to assist beginners.

You must have a tent and a sleeping bag to join. Also, we'll be in Arizona, so make sure your paperwork is in order.

When: From 11:00 pm on 10/2 to 11:00 pm on 10/09. If you have Columbus Day off, then you only take 4 days of vacation for this trip.


Flights: Booked on delta.com (not included in the $275.00 cost)

October 2:
Leaving 7:15pm        BALTIMORE        
Arriving 8:55pm        MPLS-ST PAUL         DELTA 917
Leaving 9:40pm        MPLS-ST PAUL        
Arriving 11:09pm      LAS VEGAS         DELTA 1451

October 9 (red eye flights):
Leaving 11:15pm      LAS VEGAS        
Arriving 6:06am        DETROIT         DELTA 2216
Leaving 7:30am        DETROIT        
Arriving 9:06am        BALTIMORE         DELTA 1737

Lodging:

10/02: A hotel in Boulder City (half an hour from Vegas)
10/03: Maswik Lodge
10/04-06: Group A - Bright Angel Campground, Indian Garden Campground. Group B - Mather Campground
10/07: Marble Canyon Lodge - half way to the north rim
10/08: North Rim Campground.

Itinerary:
This is a rough draft of the itinerary. Note that Group B, 6 people, has 3 cars from the 4th to the 7th afternoon. So you have a lot of freedom in picking your own hikes. You don't have to do what I'm suggesting.

10/04: Both Group A (backpack) and B (day hike) will descend the South Kaibab Trail at 6 am. No water and shade on trail so you must bring all water with you. Group B will turn around at Skeleton Point (6 miles rt -recommended) OR at the Tipoff (9 miles rt) OR somewhere in between. The hike up will take twice as long. Group A will continue to Bright Angel Campground (7 miles). We should get here before 11:30 am. Set up camp, have lunch, take a nap, play in the river. At 3 or 4 pm, we hike the Clear Creek Trail (2 mi).  Around sunset, we'll do the river loop (1.5 mi).

10/05: Group A hikes into the "box"  - optional - toward Cottonwood (in the direction of the north rim) to Ribbon Falls, then returns and hikes up to Indian Garden (4.7 miles) in the afternoon and set camps here for the next two nights.

Group B can either hike the Grand View or find something else easier to do.

10/06: Group B hikes down from Bright Angel Trail to Indian Gardens (4.8 miles).  We eat lunch, play cards, and take naps. When it cools down, Group B hikes back up.

Group A hikes the Tonto trail during the day, then hike to Plateau Point (1.5 mi) for sunset and the amazing views of the inner gorge and the Colorado River, and magnificent night sky.

10/07: Group A hikes out of the Grand Canyon in the early morning and meet up with Group B at Lookout Studio near Bright Angel Lodge in the South Rim. In the afternoon, we drive to the north rim together, with several stops along the way: Yavapai Point (near South Kaibab Trail), Desert View Watchtower.

10/08: We hike the North Kaibab Trail down to Roaring Springs and back (9.4 miles rt), descending 3400 feet. We'll have lunch here at the waterfall. From Roaring Springs to Bright Angel campground is about 9 miles, so Group A has hiked more than 2/3 of the rim-to-rim, in the addition to the hike back up the North Kaibab trail.

10/09: Explore some famous trails on the north rim: Point Imperial trail (4 mi), Bright Angel Point Trail (.5 mi), Ken Patrick Trail, Uncle Jim Trail (5 mi), Cape Royal Trail (.6 mi), Cape Final Trail (4 mi).  Drive to the airport with stops at Vermillion Cliffs and Horseshoe Bend overlook. Basically, do as much as you can on this day. Pick and choose your hikes.

Refund: Refund is sometimes possible but not guaranteed, except when we have a replacement. Last-minute dropouts have a lot less chance of getting a refund.

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  • A former member
    A former member

    I envy all of those who were able to go. I hope the group will consider doing this again sometime.

    October 19, 2012

  • Joe

    Trip of a lifetime! Was great to hike with you all. Hope to hike with you all again sometime!

    October 11, 2012

  • Tom

    Fantastic Trip, One of my best ever trips. Thanks Johnny and everyone!

    October 10, 2012

  • Tom

    I am so psyched up for this I have repacked, like, 12 times.
    If anyone isn't psyched enough yet, try this:
    http://www.genehanson.com/c2003...­

    September 30, 2012

  • Tom

    Is anyone interested in eating at one of the restaurants on the south rim on Wednesday evening? We should make reservations if we want to. El Tovar is really very good and the Arizona room is pretty good and more reasonably priced. Since we are hurrying off to the North rim after hiking out, I doubt we'll have time to have a good meal then, so I thought Wednesday evening might be our only chance.

    September 29, 2012

    • Mo

      I'm in! Thanks.

      September 30, 2012

    • Tom

      We have a reservation for 5:30 dinner at El Tovar on Wednesday. They have vegetarian and vegan options.
      Nobody takes lunch reservations so we'll have to play it by ear on Sunday.

      September 30, 2012

  • Alberto

    I'm in... hope they have vegetarian options :-)

    September 30, 2012

  • Joe

    I'm in as well...

    September 30, 2012

  • Joe

    '

    September 30, 2012

  • Mo

    Does anyone know where to get the fuel for the stove at the Grand Canyon?

    September 27, 2012

    • Mo

      @Tom, thank you so much for the info. Such a relief!

      September 28, 2012

    • Tom

      @Mo I was there in April and it amazed me that they had so much stuff. I had no idea.

      September 28, 2012

  • Joe

    When is the happy hour? 20th or 26th? Facebook page now has 26th???

    September 17, 2012

    • Joe

      OK, thanks

      September 19, 2012

    • Johnny

      Joe, have you received my email?

      September 26, 2012

  • Aidin

    Grand Canyon happy hour
    Wednesday Sep 26/ 7:30pm
    Vapiano in Chinatown:[masked] H Street N.W. Washington, DC 2000

    September 24, 2012

  • Sonia

    Sorry I had to drop out, but it was doctor's orders. Have a great trip.

    September 17, 2012

  • Aidin

    We just came up with a new plan with Johnny. Pre- hike to get ready for our big backpacking trip in Grand Canyon: http://www.facebook.com/events/...­

    September 13, 2012

  • Joe

    Yup, I'm in. I was just thinking we should all meet prior to this adventure! See you all on the 20th!

    September 8, 2012

  • Aidin

    ok then here you go Facebook page for happy hour. It is public, you also can invite any one you would like:
    http://www.facebook.com/events/...­

    September 7, 2012

    • Johnny

      Oh, no, Idin planned a happy hour. We're going to be drunk all the way through the trip.

      September 7, 2012

    • Aidin

      It October (wine time) and My BD so why not. :-)

      September 7, 2012

  • Bill

    Yes, thanks Idin. 20th is good for me too.

    September 7, 2012

  • Alberto

    Excellent idea. I would prefer to meet on the 20th. Waiting for more replies and details to meete

    September 7, 2012

  • Aidin

    Since we are going for long trip, I talked with Johnny about a happy hour that we can meet, know each other more and talk about any ideas we have. I am thinking about September 20 or 27 in DC.
    I will create a page for that in facebook by next week. Let me know if you have any suggestion.

    September 7, 2012

  • Sonia

    @Johnny - how doable is this trip? 79 people RSVP'd 'Yes' but there are only 6 maybe 11 permits? Does each person need a permit?

    June 26, 2012

  • Isaura T.

    Can't wait!!

    June 14, 2012

  • Charlie

    @Tom: Makes sense, considering that Karate means "empty hand".

    June 13, 2012

  • Tom

    @johnny - thanks. I once won a bottle of "Hai Karate" aftershave at a bowling alley when I was 15. Shut out ever since.
    @Sonia - yay.... :)

    June 13, 2012

  • Sonia

    Odds just went from 7% to 14% chance of getting one of the permits...

    June 13, 2012

  • Johnny

    LOL. You're such an optimist, Tom. We'll sort it out once the park officer confirm since I'm trying to increase the group number to 11.
    There are so many great trails around the Grand Canyon. If you're ok with not hiking rim to rim, I'm more than happy to create an itinerary for you guys to hike on the days we are down there.

    June 13, 2012

  • Tom

    Darn, that's never me...

    June 13, 2012

  • Sonia

    @Tom, short stick gets it. lol

    June 13, 2012

  • Tom

    So who gets to go with the 6 permits?

    June 13, 2012

  • Johnny

    Yes and no. We get the permits but not the route we want, and we only got 6 permits.

    June 13, 2012

  • Sonia

    @Johnny - were the permits approved?

    June 13, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm in...you were right...I'm off for Columbus day so I'll miss a few classes...

    June 5, 2012

  • Aaron

    Thanks for putting this trip together. I'm dropping out tho 'cause I got my hands on another GCNP trip heading out earlier in the year. Hope you guys have a great time - enjoy!

    May 9, 2012

  • Aaron

    So, Justin. You're saying we should hit the trail at 6 o'clock in the morning instead of 6 o'clock in the evening??? And NOT to make camp off-trail .... in the front yard of somebody else's house .... that somebody being a fully armed park ranger??? Awe, come on! :-) Good times dude!

    February 11, 2012

  • Justin

    My RSVP post was cut off, here it is:

    I did North to South in September 2008, what a fabulous trip, my favorite so far! Early September is still pretty warm, 100 degrees at Phantom Ranch. However, it really doesn't feel that hot due to how dry it is. I recommend taking your time and doing it in 4 days. Start hiking at 6am, the sun isn't too high then and the trail is mostly in shadows. Then you can chill for the rest of the day. I'll probably do the Zion/Bryce trip in May as well.

    February 9, 2012

  • Aaron

    Changed my mind to just taking in the GCNP trip. I hit this a few years back and have had the itch to go back ever since. Still prefer camping out(with at least a spot at Bright Angel Campground). Keep me in the da loop!

    December 13, 2011

  • A S

    Interested to do Zion and Bryce. Did Grand Canyon many many moons ago. June was still snowing at nite! There goes!

    November 8, 2011

  • Johnny

    Carol, the question is not whether we would do Zion Narrows, but whether we would do it all the way. The whole trail takes 12-14 hours to complete, and we may not be able to get permits. I'm planning to go from Temple of Sinawava to Big Springs - the most beautiful section of the trail. My only concern is that it may not open in May since it didn't this year until July (from what I heard).

    November 6, 2011

  • Hollis

    I'm still incredibly interested in both.

    November 6, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    If we do Zion, is anyone interested in the Zion Narrows river hike? Please please? http://www.zionnational-park.co...­
    "One of the most touted and breathtaking adventures in America" "Best Season: Mid-June to mid-September (often closed in spring due to high water)"

    November 6, 2011

  • Aaron

    I'm (and my guests, most likely) down with both trips! Been meaning to go back to Zion NP for a while. Heaven on Earth!

    November 5, 2011

  • Johnny

    Bad news: the Phantom Ranch just confirmed that their cabins/dorms are completely sold out for the month of Oct. So now it's just backpacking, and I won't know how many permits I can get until May (for late September trip) or June (for early October trip).

    I think I'm going to split this into two trips: Zion, Bryce, Grand Staircase, & Arches in late May, and Grand Canyon in either late September or early October.

    November 5, 2011

  • Govinda

    I won't be able to backpack but can do 14-15 miles. I am up for it even if it is only Bryce & Zion.

    November 5, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Thanks 4 me as well...don't backpack but could hike 14-15 miles...either way, if I understand it correctly we could still do Bryce & Zion

    November 4, 2011

  • Jayne Hiking A.

    Thanks for ur clarity Johnny. Don't backpack or hike 14 miles in a day. :-(

    November 4, 2011

  • Johnny

    Just to be clear, the backpacking is for hiking from rim to rim, not the entire trip. Backpacking is actually more manageable to hike rim to rim since we can break it up into 3-4 days and hike 6-7 miles a day. While there is only one cabin in the canyon and you have to hike 14-15 miles to get to it.

    November 4, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    It seems like there are 3 of us who don't want to backpack. Who else?

    November 4, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    If it's only backing I'm out too.

    November 4, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    I'm out if it's backpacking. But if you do Bryce & Zion and it's not backpacking then I could meetup with you all for half the trip???

    November 4, 2011

  • Aaron

    Did this a few years back and would love to go back! Excellent trails (BA and NK) and campgrounds. That said, Buckskin Gulch is an enticing sidetrip.

    November 4, 2011

  • Jayne Hiking A.

    if it's only backpacking I'm out :-(

    November 4, 2011

  • A former member
    A former member

    Johnny, forgive me for hijacking this event, but would anyone be interested in hiking / backpacking Buckskin Gulch as an alternative to Bryce or Zion? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bu...­

    November 4, 2011

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