Joe, will we be rappelling down too? Always nice to have a danger element. Just recently did an 80' rappel down a cave near Tri-Peaks in Santa Monica Mtns.

man I ain't got no ropes!

we could hike up allison gulch, and ascend that way though. then return via heaton flat trail

I've got a 100' rope, not meant for climbing but would still do the trick

Now you've got my attention.

you guys wanna go up this way? read the TR, at least up the allison mine part: http://www.gpsmountaineering.com/ironmountainviasouthwest...

also: http://www.summitpost.org/trip-report/261191/Allison-Gulc...

River crossings, climbing, and bushwacking? Sure.
I do have some webbing/'biners and some other gear to help get us unstuck, but no rope.

wow, i'm getting nervous about this one. should be exciting! are we taking the saddle from heaton to there? I'm also not too enthused about rappelling without gear. Lastly, any yucca blocking my path is getting cut! I've got to find some long ass hedge sheers.

don't worry john i'm not rappelling! still assuming we take heaton flat trail, but if we decide to ascend from allison gulch, still won't any technical stuff. also, i might change this to another date, we'll see

I would be ok with both approaches; from heaton Saddle or up the gulch. It seems that you can bypass the waterfalls in the gulch and avoid the technical stuff.

i would like to go up the gulch, make it more interesting. just have to figure out how high the water is. probably have to bring separate pair of shoes for first part

I definitely want to see your TR from this one, particularly if anyone's worked the old trail to the Stanley-Miller Mine. Have a good one. HJ

we should bring a few headlamps and helmets for any exploration inside the mines. i have a headlamp, will look into getting an appropriate helmet for this (bike helmet too bulky!)

I had a snow hike in Mount San Jacinto State Park, and climbed Cornell Peak today. It's awesome there! http://picasaweb.google.com/baulingfu/MountSanJacintoStat...#

Better make a sacrifice to the weather gods for this one . . .

my sacrifice will be to consume a neopolitan shake tomorrow. my body will hate me, so i hope the gods enjoy my pain!!!

yes the same place. would people prefer to meet at a carpool spot, or can everyone try to connect-up to carpool?

first 4 miles up the river then allison gulch are relatively flat (250 ft), then 900 ft gain in 1.5 miles (not bad), then 1000 ft gain in 1 mile which gets us by the mine. so that last party will be pretty steep, but not as long as Roundtop which was like 1600 ft....then there will be another 500 ft or so on the trail on the way back

It's been far too long.. I'm ready to get out with you guys again. Been killing me hear Ofir talk about all the fun while I've been working!

I like John's idea of a sacrifice. I think that's what the prez was referring to in his speech yesterday.

I'm up for carpooling in Azusa...

okay so river level shouldn't be too bad, as long as we traverse the rocks okay we should get wet...unless we fall in!

i'm in rain or shine. and remember to bring a bag for your electronics and for the second pair of clothing should the water level be insane!!!

0.25 inches so far today at Mt Wilson, 0.12 yesterday. the 'trails' we are going to take, who knows their conditions, they are probably in terrible shape to begin with! we'll only go as far as we can safely, and if that happens early, we'll just go hike another mt, but I doubt we'll have to

Yippie-yi-yo-ki-yay! I haven't done any good rain hikes and river crossings in awhile. Looking forward to it.

GPS record of this hike is here -

http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/episode/view.do?episod...

//>>> Elevation Data is wrong in the link above. <<<//

Joseph we were just a tad less than your original estimate of 14 miles. Thanks again for a wonderful and memorable hike.

Pictures from this hike are here -
http://gallery.me.com/ajay.mehta/100263

Have fun !

Ajay

What a bummer to be sick?. Reading and seeing all those great pictures makes it even worse, I hope that you are planning on doing this hike again Ze?. So I can get to see it too.

trip report, videos and photos! http://socalhikes.com/2009/01/east-fork-to-allison-gulch-...