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12/25 - I'm dreaming of a White Christmas Snow Shoe & Cocoa Snoqualmie Pass

Don't you look forward to Christmas morning when you send the in-laws to Denny's for breakfast, ship your spouse off to the mall and grab your outdoorsy kid and head to the mountains to go play in the snow?

Playing outdoors, isn't that what life is about, come join us for a fun afternoon of playing in the snow. We will do a few hours of hiking in the snow, with a lunch stop where we will build a snowman, a snowwoman, a snowdog or maybe just a pile of snow, depending on the artistic talents of the group.

I have 24 pairs of Loaner Snow Shoes, The snow has hit 3 feet of base, yeah!! (hopefully it doesn't all melt), so it's time to schedule another snowshoe, Haven't you ever looked out over a beautiful mountain vista and thought to yourself what a nice place this would be for a hot cocoa with friends. I'm planning on hauling up a stove so that we can have cocoa with the best people and the best views. We'll be doing an afternoon (approx 3-5 miles) Snowshoe at Snoqualmie Pass. We'll meet for carpools in Issaquah instead of Bellevue based on feedback from people on the headache of the post function and the carpool parking being so far apart. Please post if you can drive or if you need to carpool. I have 24 pairs of loaner snow shoes, so let me know if you need to borrow and make a comment in your RSVP, so that I don't forget. My cell # is[masked] This is a cross posted event, I have cross posted this to the Pacific NW Hiking Group and the Get Up and Get Out Group. If it's full here look in the other group. Carpools - We will figure out the carpools at the park and ride. Each rider should plan on pitching in $8 for gas, etc. to the drivers.

I will be coming from north Seattle and probably taking I-90, I have a Toyota 4 runner, and I really don't like driving so if someone is up for driving it, we can use it.

Carpool to the Carpool - Saul's "bus" info - I will only be stopping at the stops that people actually sign up for, so if you want me to get you at one of these stops, put it in your RSVP Saul's carpool "bus" schedule: Leave house in Kenmore 8:30am -

Lake Forest Park - Ballinger Shopping center Starbucks 10:20am - Candice (PNWHB), Debbie (GUGO)

65th/Ravenna (under I-5 near Greenlake) Park & Ride 10:40am - Heather & Marc (PNWHB), Tina H Driver (GUGO), Apoorv Bisht (PNWHB), Apoorv Bisht guest (PNWHB), H (PNWHB)

Broadway and Pike Street 11:00am -

Eastgate P&R - 11:15am - Sarita (PNWHB)

Saul's cell[masked] *** Please note: Actual Snow Shoe Route choices will be updated to reflect conditions including avalanche danger. Carpool time and location will remain the same. Most Snow shoe routes will be fairly flat and away from the slopes for safety reasons ******* Avalanche Forecast link:"

You'll notice that the south facing slopes where we will be are relatively safer, but you still want to stay clear of avalanche chutes and not be below open hillsides that could release on top of you. Most of todays routes are well clear of these hazards, If the snowpack is heavy, the back part of Gold Creek as well as portions of Kendall are riskier, we will shorten the route to stay away from that area on the Gold Creek, but if you decide to do Kendall please be familiar with the risks. I expect to post 3-4 route choices so that people will have time to select. If the snow levels are high, we will have some climbing to get started. We will do sign in sheets so that each leader knows who they are responsible for keeping track of. We will have leaders for each route choice and we will probably start multiple groups 15 minutes apart on the easier route(s) based on demand. Hope to see you there.

Saul I have loaner Snow Shoes for 24 people.

I am bringing loaner snow shoes for: Myself;

People from PNWHB: Sarita, Red Heather, Marc, Tran, Tina H, Jason, Apoorv Bisht,Apoorv Bisht guest (PNWHB), Christina Veloz, Jackie B, Marsha

People from GUGO: Maryanne, Maggie, Eric Berlin, Ji, Anna W, Beryl, Elie L, Eile L guest, H

I just finished unloading kayak gear and loading snow shoe gear so that's finished.


You need to bring your own boots or shoes to wear with them and keep your feet warm. If you like to use poles you'll need to bring your own. The people that I am recruiting as leaders, I'll pair you in groups of two. Let me know if you have any concerns Have an idea which route interests you, we will split into carpools at the Park & Ride for the various routes.

  • 11:45 AM-noon - Meet for carpools and decide on which route we are snow shoeing (I will have gone up on Friday, so I should know where there is adequate snow)
  • 12:45 PM-1:00 PM - Meet at Travelers rest, Snoqualmie Pass, use the restrooms
  • 1:15 PM - Meet at trailhead nearby
  • 1:30 PM - Start snowshoeing
  • 3:15-3:30 PM - Back to the trailhead
  • 4:15 PM - Meet at Pete Monsons, for lunch, bonfire and beer - see info below
  • Note: due to varying weather/snow conditions, we may not be back by 4:15, so please keep your afternoon open in case we finish later.

Sno-Park Permits are required at most locations starting December 1st -. Buy one online.

Pete Montson will open his Holiday Lodge at the base of Mount Si for a post snowshoe
hike evening of Christmas Merriment.
 46707 SE Mount Si Road, North Bend WA.On the right, Look For "The Abby" sign on
log round
You are welcome to drop by anytime 4:30-10pm even if you can’t make the snow shoe
What should I bring? Exercise your culinary creativity (or find your favorite
deli/bakery to do it for you) and bring a dish to share or something to drink; there
will  be a QFC open Christmas Day on North Bend Way just 3 miles away from the
Holiday Lodge. 
Pete’s Lodgea NorthWest museum where the kitchen is known as wine central; (a real
wine glass for everyone). The great room also serves as a wedding chapel and has
been featured in Better Cabins and Gardens. There will be roaring fires in the
fireplace, wood stoves and a bonfire for those that can’t bear to come inside!
Come Celebrate Christmas with your old and new friends and family.
Pete’s cell[masked]

The Plan based on the changing weather (12/20/2012) - will be updated:

The plan - depending on changes to the weather and the resulting avalanche
hazards as well as my talking to the route leaders that I listed before calling them.

Is to split the group into 3 or 4 subgroups. Each group has to be 12 or
fewer animals (people, dogs, cats, gerbils, horses, mules, eagles,
monkeys, whatever). That means if you are bring your pet Hippo that you got for Christmas
 that you need to sign up as a +1

Group 1 - Leader - Saul - area - the trails behind Alpental near Snow Lake
and Source Lake - exactly how far we go depends on the hazard level, we'll
stay in close or go elsewhere if the number is above 2. Otherwise I'd like
to scout the area for some future trips. Probably figure on 2-4 miles of
hiking on rolling terrain, it's really scenic but once you get away from
the creek and near the slopes you have to be careful. Alternate will be
Lake Keechelus and the Iron Horse Trail

Group 2 - Leader - Lyle - Commonwealth Basin - figure 1 mile of on road
hiking and another 2 miles of trails, with some decent climbing.

Group 3 - Leader - Eric - Kendall Peak - only if avy haz is 2 or lower.
Alternate will be the PCT behind Summit West.

Group 4 leader Beryl - Gold Creek

What to bring: You need to bring your own boots or shoes to wear with the snowshoes and keep your feet warm. If you like to use poles you'll need to bring your own. To make sure you have everything, use this snowshoe checklist:

Please note: The actual snowshoe route choice will be updated to reflect conditions including avalanche danger. Carpool time and location will remain the same. Most snowshoe routes will be fairly flat and away from the slopes for safety reasons. Avalanche Forecast link:

I am trying to talk someone into leading one of the higher climbing routes so that the Split Boarders in the group can have a decent time on the decent.

Possible routes based on avalanche conditions:

Intended Routes to chose from:

Hyak Exit Lower Gold Creek Basin - the upper part tends to get avalanches - sno Park Permit required - 5-7 miles some hills, mostly flat) -

Kendall Peaks Lake - sno Park Permit required - approx 8 miles, steady climb - Elevation Gain: 1,700 feet High Point: 4,400 feet, this climb will be a good workout.

Commonwealth basin, no permit, 3-5 miles, 1000 feet gain

Mount Margaret - sno Park Permit required (possibly even Groomed trail permit, depending on where you park), 5-9 miles, 2800 feet gain.

Higher elevation (over 3,000 feet at the start) or further East routes in case of rain:

Source Lake, sno Park Permit required - approx 5 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,000 feet High Point: 4,100 feet

Salmon La Sac Creek, sno Park Permit required - approx 7 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,300 feet High Point: 4,700 feet

Swauk Forest Discovery Trail, sno Park Permit required - approx 4 miles, fairly flat - Elevation Gain: 450 feet High Point: 4,550 feet

Harney Meadow Loop - sno Park Permit required - approx 7 miles, rolling tough hills - Elevation Gain: 1,600 feet High Point: 5,700 feet

Permit Requirements - excerpt from Email from Washington State:

RE: Sno Park permit requirement dates From: "Winter (PARKS)" <[masked]> Date: Tue, November 20,[masked]:29 pmTo:[masked] Priority: Normal Options: View Full Header | View Printable Version| Download this as a file | Bounce | Spam | Not Spam


Permits are required starting December 1st.

Thank you for your inquiry.

I know that this event usually fills up really quick and I'd like everyone to be able to go so I will need help from others that are willing to lead, my preference is that you have some familiarity with the route, have a map, can navigate, have some first aid experience and are skilled at managing squirells in a fun way ;-) 1) Leading one of the routes - we will be in areas with legal party size restrictions of 8-12 people max, I will identify which route has which restriction. I need more people to volunteer to lead a group so that we can split into legal size groups starting either on different routes or a while apart if on the same route, we not only want to be legal, we actually don't want our groups so close together that it feels like a shopping mall experience for our fellow outdoors people, so let me know if you are willing to lead and if you have a preferred route from the list. Thanks Saul [masked][masked]


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  • A former member
    A former member

    a great day out with a great group of people; thanks Saul for organizing

    December 25, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hello! Yes, please I would like a pair of loaner snow shoes. I am a newbie to this, so would be great to be paired with someone who is has patience :) I will rent poles from REI. Have a Prius, so not ideal for driving--looking to carpool with others. I do have a permit to offer. Thank you! My mobile is[masked]

    December 19, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      I updated invite but wanted to confirm again that it will be JUST ME (1) person :)

      December 20, 2012

    • Anthony N.

      I live in bellevue if you need ride. I can carpool with you. Can meet you at Bellevue park and ride of I 90 Tony[masked]

      December 25, 2012

  • Anthony N.

    I am interested but not sure where to get snow shoe this late. Loaner? Tran I live in bellevue if you need a lift!

    December 25, 2012

  • Saul_K

    Just a reminder for carpoolers, the Greenlake Park & Ride under I-5 is the same as the 65th and Ravenna Park & Ride.

    December 24, 2012

    • Tina H

      OK.. I'll drive to Issaquah, and take anyone who wants to come w/me. Hoping they'll be others with more hefty vehicles than mine when we get there!

      December 24, 2012

    • Tina H

      so sorry guys... I 'm not feeling well.

      December 25, 2012

  • Joe S.

    Will miss this fun event -- will be in Guadalajara Mexico for holidays. To all... sincere wishes for PEACE & JOY & KINDNESS.

    Love Joe Staiano

    December 24, 2012

    • A former member
      A former member

      Buon viaggio Joe e di nu­ovo Buon Natale.

      December 24, 2012

  • Joe S.

    This sounds like a dream. Sorry I will miss this. Xmas & New Years in Mexico. Merry Christmas to you all. Joe Staiano

    1 · December 21, 2012

  • Saul_K

    If the temps here are below 42 then rain here means snow there

    1 · December 21, 2012

  • Tina H

    Thank you Saul for putting me on the snow shoe list & organizing! The forecast isn't looking too good though. Do you think rain here means snow there? I remember last time....

    December 20, 2012

  • A former member
    A former member

    I can also meet at the Ballinger SBUX, assuming I work my way up the waiting list of course.

    December 13, 2012

  • Candice

    Like to get on your car pool bus at Lake Forest Park - Ballinger Shopping center Starbucks 10:20am. My cell (206) 265-0234. Please wait for me. Thanks!

    December 12, 2012

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