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NE115- Osceolas(2) andHancocks NH>Tecumseh\\/Car­rigain- 2nd of 4 Spring Trips-NH

Update:   Expect cold weather tomorrow.  Temperatures no higher than 40 degrees (and that is at trailhead).  Bring crampons if you have them.  Also bring microspikes.

Also expect the winds to be gusty most of the day Friday.  Make sure you have something to cover your face and eyes when we summit. 

Bring the standard winter gear.  In addition, bring a second set of footwear for the 5 river crossings we will have to make while travelling the Hancocks.  I bring old running shoes to slip on (with plastic bags).  Always a fun experience crossing the ice cold streams!

Bugs are flying around so bring spray and perhaps a bug net.

Monorail should be frozen tomorrow.  Spikes will keep you on it.  I may/may not bring snowshoes.  The info that i have received is that snowshoes are not necessary.  i am leaning toward not bringing them.

Don't bring very large bags.  We are all trying to fit into a suburban.  We need the room.

..4/1/12  update:

3 rooms are reserved. 

Will be posting one weekend hike each month through June, with the goal of having 18 done by July 1. 

Question is......Who's in???

I would like to hit at least three of these five NH high peaks on these two days. 

 Day 1: Mt. Hancock and South Hancock (RT distance is 9.5 miles)

Day 2: East Osceola and Osceola (RT is 7.5 miles)

 Option: We will make that decision at the right time.

We will leave at 4:ooam on Friday and get to the TH no later than 9:00. Sunset is 7pm ....so daylight is not a concern. After our hike, we will remain at one of the Inns in the area.

The next morning, we will be at TH by 8 am. We will hike the Osceola peaks (be out by mid afternoon) and return to Albany by 630pm on Saturday.

THis hike is reserved for very experienced hikers! Winter conditions still exist in the White Mtns! It is an interesting weekend of hiking! Experienced winter hikers only!!! Thank you.

Your Commitment:

 All costs associated with lodging and transportation are equally divided amongst participants that sign up. A commitment must be made prior to 10 days of the hike. If you bow out of the hike within that 10 day period before the hike, you will be responsible for the cost of reservations made on behalf of you! Only fair.

The Liability Waiver--Please read!

1) Hiking and other outdoor activities that we organize is an inherently risky activity. These risks include changes in the weather, hazardous terrain, animal attacks, falls, falling objects, failure of critical equipment, and injury from physical exertion. Traveling to a wilderness area involves additional inherent risks as medical assistance is not available. By participating you agree not to hold the organizers or any follow participants liable for any injury or damage to personal property as a consequence of these risks. (In plain English: Hiking is dangerous and everyone gets hurt sooner or later, so you can't blame anyone when you get hurt.)

2) Hiking with an amateur group rather than a professional guide also involves additional inherent risks. These include relying on other members for transportation, aid during an emergency, and general assistance throughout the event. By participating, you agree not to hold fellow participants or the organizers liable for negligence, poor judgment, over-sights, or any other mistakes on their part. (In plain English: You're choosing to hike with a bunch of amateurs, so you can't blame anyone when they make mistakes.)

By signing up for this hike and choosing to participate in it, you are asserting that you understand the risks involved and that you are assuming responsibility for your own safety and well-being during the event. Remember , the organizer is not a certified guide, nor is he someone that can make decisions for you. You are merely being provided with an opportunity to hike/ climb with other outdoor enthusiasts.

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  • Carron

    Another incredible weekend in Whites.....love hiking these mountains so far. Fridays hike up the Hancocks was a steep ascent that was great and sitting in the jacuzzi after was very relaxing , but then Saturday got even better.... absolutely LOVED climbing Osceola and the views from the summit were outstanding. Much thanks to Charlie who continues to organize these adventures and to a great group of friends who made the trip so fun and memorable this Easter weekend.

    April 8, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    What a great group of hikers! The resort at Woodward for very nice. It was great to sit in the jacuzzi and swim after a long hike on Friday. The White Mtns continue to be amazing. The Hancocks were beautiful, but the Osceolas were amazingly stunning and a bit challenging with the ice. Steep climbs on both days. Thanks for going everyone! Our next adventure will be just as great!

    April 8, 2012

  • Mark C

    This was a really awesome trip! I couldn't have asked to hike with a better group of people, and the weather was perfect. Thank you, Charlie for organizing and leading us. Thanks Lisa for getting us to and from. I forgot to mention, Happy Birthday, Caron! I hope 29 treats you as well as.... um 29 did.

    April 8, 2012

  • Mark S.

    This was an A number 1 trip. I really enjoyed eating these peaks up and sharing the weekend with a great bunch of people. I'm glad I could work it in. Thanks to Charlie for organizing and to Charlie and Carron for driving.

    April 7, 2012

  • John S.

    Friday was a party, and Saturday was an adventure :-) Very challenging hikes both days, but glad to see them through with a great group of people. Charlie, thank you very much for organizing this, setting up the hotel stay and leading the hikes. Lisa, thank you very much for driving us up and back. Thanks to all for the company, any have a happy Easter!

    April 7, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    bring a swim suit......no swimsuit and you'll miss out on pool and others.

    April 5, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    Tag..I've done my research. We are hiking up the south peak of Hancock. It is steep, icy, but manageable with spikes. The conditions coming down from the north are a sharp contrast to what we'll see on the south side. We can bypass the third -fifth rwater crossings by bushwhacking if we must. Tag....not much info on a monorail, maybe across the ridges though.....we will see.

    April 5, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    Hoping you mean trail stove to be used on the trail...not in the hotel room. Not sure we have time to use a stove on the trail. Bring food you can munch on as you hike.

    April 5, 2012

  • Mark C

    Odd question, but is anyone bringing a stove? I'd rather eat some trail food @ the hotel. Also, I made THE BEST oatmeal raisin cookies! I hope no ones allergic to deliciousness!

    April 5, 2012

  • Courtney

    Yes, I've been to the Hancocks before. The trail to South Hancock is VERY STEEP! It's one of the steepest trails in the Whites after Willey. It's better to go up rather than down. There is no views from Tecumseh. I took the ski trail down and there was great views there! Carrigain, be careful of the river crossing. It's very difficult at this time of year. No views from East Oscola, but the main summit has good views! Enjoy.

    April 5, 2012

  • tag

    Alan, you'll be missed! I've been doing some research on the Hancocks...it's best to go up South Hancock 1st b/c of the ice. Very little ice on North Hancock. Cost $3 to park. Haven't found anything on the monorail...what is that?

    April 5, 2012

  • Alan J.

    I miss you guys! I hope you have a great hike. Alan

    April 5, 2012

  • tag

    Lisa, I need directions to your place.

    April 4, 2012

  • Mark S.

    OK sounds good- if we are still looking for drivers - please post it

    April 4, 2012

  • Lisa

    charlie - please change the meet up location since you mentioned we are leaving from Brunswick

    April 4, 2012

  • Lisa

    guys, we should figure out cars..how about tag, Mark S and Sasso park at my place...come at 3:50am. We can then go over to charlies. Not sure what Mark C is doing, but he can come here or go to Charlies.

    April 4, 2012

  • Laura

    Hey guys! Sorry to have to do this but I have to bail. My Uncle passed away this morning so I need to stick around for the funeral and to be with the fam. Don't change the rooms again. I'll still pay my share. If I can, I'll try to get the money to someone before Fri.

    April 4, 2012

  • John S.

    Dammit, Charlie! Poop or get off the pot!!! ;-)

    April 3, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    .com not .org

    April 3, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    John...you are tough......so tough on me.

    April 3, 2012

  • John S.

    The URL given is incorrect. See the following for trail reports: http://www.newenglandtrailconditions.com/ http://trailsnh.com/NH-4000.php

    April 3, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    I have all the maps and trail info. You will probably have no success getting overall trail info. you will have success getting trail reports at
    newenglandtrailconditions.org

    April 3, 2012

  • Mark C

    Is there anyplace I can get a trail description online. I usually use backpacker, but I am getting an error when I bring up Osceolas and Hancocks.

    April 3, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    wacko was tired after the hike.....when we stopped at beer world in catskill, he disappeared!

    April 2, 2012

  • tag

    Good deal Charlie! Wacko isn't coming is he?

    April 2, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    I was allowed to rebook the rooms at a lesser rate. orbitz is great.....if their price assurance holds up, we are getting the rooms for $270 for 3 of them. I expect that there may be afew bucks in fees...hopefully not.

    April 2, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    I just reserved a third room. We will take 5-6 to a suv . Jason...you are still signed up. One person is not making a difference. Stay on the list until you know for sure.

    April 2, 2012

  • Laura

    I'll take a spot too if anyone needs to back out! The thought of 4am is killing me but this looks like so much fun!

    April 2, 2012

  • Jason

    they can probably take my spot. I havent heard from work regarding the day off.

    April 2, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    i am still going too!

    March 26, 2012

  • John S.

    I'm still going, too

    March 26, 2012

  • Mark S.

    Ok I doublechecked with work and I'm still going

    March 26, 2012

  • Mark S.

    Ok I doublechecked with work and I'm still going

    March 26, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    Mark......please...I request that you bring your werewolf medication with you in order to avoid such issues.

    March 25, 2012

  • tag

    rof@Mark

    March 20, 2012

  • Mark S.

    Now Charlie, it says that participants cannot be held liable for animal attacks. Does that mean that if I bite someone, then I won't be held responsible?

    1 · March 20, 2012

  • Courtney

    If I'm able to attend this outing, I am interested in the hancocks. I was less than 100 feet from South Hancock. I had to turn around last winter due to bad weather. I don't remember seeing or reading about any stream crossing in the AMC guide book. I've already done Carrigan and Cannon, Osceloas and Tecumseh as well! I've done Carrigan in the spring and it was a very difficult river crossing. I could do the Tripyramids while you guys are doing the Oscelas or Mt Flume?

    March 14, 2012

  • 4mincharlie AKA F.

    courtney,,,,you can do carrigan while we do the hancocks....you could even run up to cannon .

    March 14, 2012

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