Re: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!

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From: Alex Kallas <[address removed]>
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Sent: Friday, January 4,[masked]:25 AM
Subject: Re: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!

We will be holding a free Aquaponics workshop May 25. We will discuss the process of combining Aquaculture with Hydroponics. 

Alex Kallas
Ag PALS


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From: deb <[address removed]>
To: homesteaders-50 <[address removed]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 3,[masked]:03 pm
Subject: Re: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!

I get my info from many sources, and I believe some but never all without further research.  And my main intention was to grow forage feed for may livestock.  Whether in aquaponic beds or directly in french drains.

I need to read more about salmonella.  Because I was understanding that Salmonella is everywhere.  And what about people who collect rain water from their roofs.  What about the bird poo in that?  Not being argumentative just scratching my head a little.  And aren't the germs that cause Salmonella washed off when you wash your vegetables prior to eating them?

Maybe my understanding of Aquaponics is not clear.  I was thinking fresh water in to the fish dirty out to the plants.   Then filtered used water and fresh water to maintain water level back in.  Its a good system for the fish because it doesn't disturb their slime coating which is their first barrier to disease.

I raised aquarium fish for many years in enclosed semi self containing environments using simple rules.  A gallon of water per inch of fish, lots of surface area, Steady water temperatures, Feed sparingly, change a quarter of the tank of water every six months top off with fresh, and don't mess with the under gravel filter.  Not a pro but a good home aquarium keeper.  Even had a few Tilapia juveniles back in the seventies.

So in come the Ducks.  Dirty Poopers in the water....  LOL.  Dirty poopers on the ground....  Ever gone skiing on duck poo residing on the back porch.... I have.  They drink the water they poo in.  They lay eggs we eat.  We eat duck meat...   

deb....  "off to read on the internet about Salmonilla"


On 1/3/2013 1:34 PM, Alex Kallas wrote:
Yes, you are correct. I am sure there is someone doing it, has posted it, and everyone else takes it as correct. This is why I would recommend separate systems, one for food production, the other for non food.

Alex Kallas
Ag PALS


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From: Rev. Holy Meow mailto:[address removed]
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Sent: Thu, Jan 3,[masked]:29 pm
Subject: Re: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!

Every thing I've read about Aquaponics is you really don't want to introduce warm blooded animal wastes into your system because of the possibility of salmonella contamination. The fish are safe from this because they are cold blooded (can't carry the germs) its probally best to use the duck water for your fruit trees and other such uses.... Hope this helps have an awesome day! 

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On Jan 2, 2013, at 5:44 PM, deb <[address removed]> wrote:

I am only in the research phase.... I read volumes before I start any kind of project.    But the effluent from the ducks is pretty rich.  And I hate to waste water.  To the point that no plant on my property gets watered.    I am even considering collecting the water I dump from cleaning the chickens waterers out.  Or at least doing some french drains to allow the water to be directed toward any fruit trees I want to plant.

What I wanted to do is have the Tilapia in totes in the green house room where I can provide heat for the winter then pass the water from them to the ducks wading pool then on to plants growing in water for the chickens and goats to browse on.

Can I put the grey water into this loop as well. 

so many questions.  and possibly just academic because I have mobility issues.

deb


On 1/2/2013 3:57 PM, Alex Kallas wrote:
Hi Deb,
Yes, Ducks are something to explore. Using them in a system to grow food sounds interesting. Usually they are used to feed the fish not the plants but would be happy to discuss your thoughts on it.

Alex Kallas
Ag PALS


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From: deb mailto:[address removed]
To: homesteaders-50 mailto:[address removed]
Sent: Tue, Jan 1,[masked]:36 pm
Subject: Re: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!

Runner Ducks lay lots of eggs and aren't really into swimming much.  Plus they are Danged cute.  Next on my own list of livestock I want.

I would be interested in:
Duckponics.   I am not making a joke some people use the duck wading pool part of the loop for their Aquaponics projects.
Its the only way I would consider raising ducks in my waterless desert property.

also

Greywater mechanics....  what kinds of soaps good bad,  The best kind of filtrations purification processes that are organic as in using areobic or anerobic bacteria.  Mechanical filtration.....  fiber to graduated gravel....  eventually to Hyacinth...

food preservation yes also stock rotation and storage.  No cellars in CA  so how do we do it without refrigeration.

Wind power harvesting

deb

On 1/1/2013 9:13 AM, Laurie Huber wrote:
Here’s what interests me.
Tree pruning and care
Square foot gardening
Straw Bale/Pallet Chicken Coop Construction
Rain Water Harvesting
Also candlemaking, canning, and root cellars, or preserving root crops such as carrots, onions, and potatoes.  And I’m probably the only one around, but I want to learn about raising ducks.  Plenty out there on chickens, but we live on a pond, and it makes sense for us to get eggs from ducks.
 
Thanks,
Laurie
 
From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Alex Kallas
Sent: Monday, December 31,[masked]:51 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: [homesteaders-50] Get ready for many ways to learn for free in 2013!
 
As we look towards the new year, we want to invite you to participate in one of the upcoming workshops that will start in January, and run through April/May. In addition, these completed projects will continue to be available to you, and will also reach out to teach over 1 million participants this year. Our first 2 workshops are already showing signs of the excitement to follow. This is in addition to the many additional opportunities to get involved. Let us know how you would like to participate.
Tree pruning and care
Square foot gardening
Permaculture Keyhole and Hugelkultur Garden
Companion Planting, Nitrogen Fixers
Green Wall/Roof
Hydroponics
Aquaponics
Beekeeping
Straw Bale/Pallet Chicken Coop Construction
Patio Construction
Rain Water Harvesting
Cobb Oven/Outdoor Kitchen
Cobb/glass wall construction
Earth Bag Wall Construction
Laundry to Landscape Construction
 
All the best in 2013!
Alex, Lacy, George
 
 
 




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