Re: [houston-php] MySQL Certification

From: John P A.
Sent on: Thursday, October 28, 2010 5:35 PM
Any pointers on consulting fees. So far I've been playing it by ear, and trying to feel from customers what might be a good fee, but haven't seen a site that has information on reasonable rates, while not giving away the farm. I am talking about a PHP/MySQL consultant with a many years of real-world experience (around 5 or more). I am looking for examples of rates for jobs primarily under 3 months. Any ideas or sites that might have some comments on this?


On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Todd <[address removed]> wrote:
I have certifications in Oracle (OCP - DBA), Lustre, and RHCE (RedHat). IMHO, only lab-based tests (e.g., Cisco and RedHat) show any sort of "baseline competence."? I got my certifications because my employers wanted them.? I admit to learning a few things that I might have otherwise missed (archane commands, a general theory, etc).? The study/etc for the certs gives you the "verbage" and "design fundamentals" to talk intelligently about the subject matter.? So... certs are not without merit... but hardly (again, just one person's opinion) worth your OWN money and time.

- Todd (UNIX Architect)

BTW: I've taught a few Oracle DBA certification prep classes.? Except for one student, I would not have let ANY of those people touch my databases.? Unless you have a reasoanble amount of on-the-job experience and are merely "rusty," courses are bunk.? Buy a book, read it thoroughly/completely/etc, and then go for the test(s).? Courses present so much information so quickly that they're just not useful to most people.


From: [address removed]

Subject: Re: [houston-php] MySQL Certification
To: [address removed]
Date: Wed, 27 Oct[masked]:51:17 -0400


I agree - the more real world the better, but you do occasionally get a hiring manager that throws a programming test. In those instances - the more book knowledge the better - you can't predict what area of the language they will test on. A certification will teach you almost all there is to know whereas most homegrown developers started with a need/demand and research from there.

Majority of the development hiring market is controlled by former developers themselves and most understand the difference between real world experience and text book and would give you more consideration for your publicly available code and projects.?

If you have a good body of work, save your money and leave the certificates to those who don't.

Brandon R. Bissoon
Multi-Platform Developer / UX Architect

"A simple man believes anything, but a prudent man gives thought to his steps." (Proverbs 14:15)

--- On Wed, 10/27/10, Will Beazley <[address removed]> wrote:

From: Will Beazley <[address removed]>
Subject: Re: [houston-php] MySQL Certification
To: [address removed]
Date: Wednesday, October 27, 2010, 12:03 PM

? Developers don't but hiring managers seem to.

And yes, absolutely get your code out there.

If you don't have published code they shall likely ask you to make some
demo code or take a programming test.

If you work on public project you are getting a peer-reviewed education.

Getting a certification can only help unless it takes away from
something with a higher return.

On 10/27/10 11:54 AM, Evan wrote:
>? From my own experience, many developers (especially those that have
> transitioned over into management positions) don't put much stock in
> certifications.? I think the best kind of experience you can have is
> other quality developers or DBAs that can vouch for you, and/or
> publicly available projects/code (think sourceforge, github, google
> code, etc).
>
> Just my $0.02
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Jason Benkert<[address removed]>? wrote:
>> Not any specific employer... yet, just trying to add some value to my work
>> that I currently do as well as my resume.? So I guess I'd like to get
>> certified for my own benefit.
>>
>> My background is ME and I'm trying to work more towards an application
>> development/DBA type of career.? Rather than going back to school for
>> information systems, I am opting the path of real world experience with a
>> few certifications to back it up.
>>
>
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