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Re: [houston-php] Problem with group meeting attendance

From: user 1.
Sent on: Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:57 AM
That would be great!  But not tonight though - D&D night this week.

Todd: Yeah, SOAP can be a pain.  But I think FreeBasic has a SOAP interface also which is _kind of_ easy to use.  I'm surprised to learn that Anaconda is written in Python.  I thought it was another BASH script.  Hadn't looked really.  FreeBasic can be compiled as a static program so they can run as stand alone programs which would make them usable on systems that don't already have all of the libraries installed.  Someone once (a long time ago) had mentioned using MAKE to do all installations since MAKE has all of the capabilities built in to it.  But that seemed to die a very bloody death because all of the different distros of MAKE came out saying theirs was the best.  Hmmmmmmm maybe that's why they are using Python.  There is only one version of Python so you don't get the flame wars over who's version of the software is best?

Chris Oakman: I have left PracticeInsight.  Probably for the same reasons you left.  PM me.  I'd like to talk to you again.  Thanks!

On 4/12/2012 1:00 AM, David McGarry wrote:
Obviously there are some bright folks in Houston. I propose a Houston php happy hour. If only to rally the troops. Just an idea.

Dave



On Apr 12, 2012, at 12:08 AM, Todd <[address removed]> wrote:

Well, I'm guessing, here... but such a utility language must have very minimal requirements -- i.e., it should be able to run from a glorified BusyBox environment.  Regardless, I chose it because I was faced with a choice: a PHP SOAP interface or a Python API.  Well, it was an excuse to learn Python... and ooooohhhhhh do I hate SOAP.  Python happens to be the language in which the Redhat installer (Anaconda) is written... which is amusing... for the language is named after Monty Python (and not the snake).

Python is also, er, nearly BASH++


From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [houston-php] Problem with group meeting attendance
Date: Thu, 12 Apr[masked]:42:50 -0400

I always wondered why the various Linux distros didn't use something like FreeBasic which is compilable, easily expanded, and has lots of libraries for every system out there.  Besides having the onerous of being a basic language - it has classes, enums, includes, and everything else C has but the benefits of dynamic allocation of arrays, 2D and 3D graphics, and a lot more.  I know scripts make it easy to change things but you can't get faster than compiled except with assembly language.  And FreeBasic is very fast as well as very small executables.

On 4/11/2012 9:28 PM, Todd wrote:
Gary put it well:  "It's hard to be to committed with so many cancellations. Are we meeting 75% of the time? "  This is why I stopped attending.  I used to look forward to the meetings... but with so much unpredictability and so very little "unoccupied time" in the schedule... well, I just stopped "bothering."  I disagree with the criticism of "the meetings used to have a broader appeal... and now focus in on what is hot."  I like the "new & shinny."  Technology keeps moving.  "New & shinny keeps us sharp and exposed to different ways of approaching problems."  Alas, again, it's the "spottiness" that I can't stomach.  I {hate}++ the early time... but I can "deal" with it once per month... usually.  However, again, it requires a bit of maneuvering to set-that-up... and then often for naught.

Admittedly, I have RSVP'd and then been unable to attend (mostly because it's hard to get out the office so early).  I was unaware that this caused logistical issues and offer my apology to both Joao and the group.

- Todd

BTW:  I still like PHP.  It's my favorite.  However, I've been writing a LOT of Python, lately.  It has its merits (e.g., being stupendously faster than PHP) and its detractors.  The lack of braces -- although VERY "WRONG" at first -- is actually NICE!  Who knew?  If you use RedHat/Fedora-centric distros, the availability of Python during the installer environment is quite nice.  I digress -- just another geek toy.




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