Re: [humanism-166] Do you want to be involved in this ?

From: Ginny R.
Sent on: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 11:51 AM
Count me in on the planning to leave group. I belong to nine other Meetups and have never had to endure anything like this. It's like being back in junior high school!

From: Josh <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, September 4,[masked]:45 AM
Subject: Re: [humanism-166] Do you want to be involved in this ?

I couldn't agree more!!!

- JW

On 9/4/13 11:10 AM, Josiah AKA Baby wrote:
> I for one am about ready to leave the group over this shit. This is not
> the appropriate place for this discussion. Telling me to fix it on my
> end when it shouldn’t ever have been given to me seriously? Humanists
> who don’t respect other humans desires? Can you say Hypocrisy? If this
> group is full of such people I will gladly leave it and find real
> humanists.
>
> *From:*[address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] *On
> Behalf Of *Ermias Asfaw
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 04,[masked]:59 AM
> *To:* [address removed]
> *Subject:* Re: [humanism-166] Do you want to be involved in this ?
>
> I enjoy the emails - those that find it annoying but want kept in the
> loop, please use technology and filter the email to auto archive or
> delete upon arrival and save as your YELLING :)
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> On Sep 4, 2013, at 9:51, Vince T <[address removed]
> <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
>
>    It appears there is some disagreement.  Some people enjoy the emails
>    and banter, others are frustrated and annoyed by it.  There have
>    been expressions of kindness and brotherhood, as well as virulent
>    attacks on individuals and political groups. The contradictions
>    don't end there.  In fact, this seemed to have started with an offer
>    to provide a platform in which to express and share thoughts and
>    political perspectives; this was quickly followed by expressions of
>    anger and oppression. What does that tell us about human nature? Are
>    we doomed? Is there hope? Is the answer within us or among us?  This
>    has been very interesting and I believe worth pondering for some time.
>
>    *From:*Jeff M <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>>
>    *To:* [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
>    *Sent:* Wednesday, September 4,[masked]:56 AM
>    *Subject:* RE: [humanism-166] Do you want to be involved in this ?
>
>    Well said Kate.!!!
>
>    From: [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
>    To: [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>
>    Subject: Re: [humanism-166] Do you want to be involved in this ?
>    Date: Tue, 3 Sep[masked]:38:47 -0400
>
>    One can simply not be a humanist and be involved in politics, unless
>    it serves the humanist principals. Last time I checked, we're
>    starving the poor, gutting medical for the poor and disadvantaged,
>    destroying water supplies and padding the pockets of corporations,
>    french-kissing republican asses and padding the pockets of tea party
>    psychotics.  No thank you. If one truly wants to make a difference,
>    volunteer your time, hold a hungry child while she eats, give a hand
>    up and be truly a compassionate human.
>
>    - K.
>
>    On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM, j <[address removed]
>    <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
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>        No worries. We're almost there. Real time debates in real time,
>        all the time.
>
>        On Sep 3,[masked]:41 PM, "Siva" <[address removed]
>        <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
>
>            We already know everyone is dissatisfied.
>
>            The important question is how to provide a real INCENTIVE
>            for Congress
>            to change its ways (i. e. via blackmail, counter-lobbying,
>            or other
>            forms of political extortion/manipulation).
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>            No one does anything without an incentive (basic law of
>            human nature).
>
>            So unless you have a new sack of candy to offer Congress, or can
>            credibly threaten to take away the ones it has, your trip is
>            pointless.
>
>            Sorry.
>
>            On 9/3/13, Nathan Curland <[address removed]
>            <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:
>            > The following is from Michael.  If you want to be interviewed, let me know
>            > ASAP!  (Note: this is NOT sponsored by HofMn!)
>            >
>            >
>            >
>            > Everyone knows how much Americans are dissatisfied with Congress.
>            > Politicians only listen to their campaign donors and the special interests
>            > and the People are the ones whose voices are drowned out in the process.
>            >
>            > My wife and I are traveling the country to collect people's stories about
>            > how the dysfunction in Congress affects their lives.
>            >
>            > We will be in the Minneapolis area this week and I would like to find out if
>            > any of your group's members would be interested in meeting with us and
>            > telling us their personal stories, on camera if possible, about how
>            > Congressional dysfunction affects them. Your meetup on Saturday, Sept. 7th
>            > may be an ideal venue.
>            >
>            > To find out more about us, you can visit:http://www.voiceforthepeople.org/
>            >
>            > Let us know.
>            > Thanks.
>            >
>            > Michael
>            >
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