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Japanese Meetup @Singapore Message Board › Any good Japanese Language School to recommend?

Any good Japanese Language School to recommend?

wy
user 3349532
Singapore, SG
Post #: 77

while i dont know them, but from my trolling around this group, tsubasa and wenyan are definitely vip members who embodies the spirit of peer sharing. they are well liked and respected for good reasons.

Minhwaさん、あ­りがとうご­ざいます。­。。


Hi Minhwa,

It's heartening to know that I'm not the only idiot getting fed up over this. Thanks for your support. I'm not a VIP member, but just an old member with too much time on her hands, and that doesn't guarantee what I say is always right. Point out to me when you think I've said something wrong and I will reflect on it smile
Kotoko
user 13510259
Singapore, SG
Post #: 3

I have to second Wenyan's point that constant exposure to the language would actually be more helpful than professional guidance. I have noticed that people studying on their own tend to pick up Japanese much faster. In the end its really about how motivated you are. I have known people in Meetup who have gone from N3 to N2 within a year without getting help from a teacher. (and their spoken Japanese isn't half bad either!)


I agree on the motivation part . Without motivation and perseverance ( you really need alot of this ) on the part of the learner , any method , be it school / self study / private tutor/ online class / working in japan / etc etc , wouldnt work anyway . With them , any method would probadly yield results . Just my view on it , of course .

His trick was to think to himself in Japanese as much as possible, from the moment he wakes up (e.g. I'm going to brush my teeth) and to copy the speech of drama characters.


Of course, few people can keep up the motivation year-long without slacking, so I think having regular classes is helpful. Unfortunately I'll slack off the lessons too and waste my school fees crying so taking a book around and reading it whenever I feel like it works better for me.

So my advice is to do whatever that keeps you interested and motivated. (I feel like a broken recorder, like I've said this a few times already.)


I like to think that I still have that spark of motivation somewhere in me, though it seems to be burning low and getting a little inconsistent.

I like Jpop/Jrock songs, esp. songs used for anime opening and ending songs. That was how I came to know Porno Graffiti, L'arc en Ciel, etc etc. Used to be I will put together comprehensive lists of lyrics of songs i like, with romanji, hiragana/katakana and translated versions of each song. Searching for and putting them together took time, reading them over and over again took time, and multiply that by how many songs?....yeah, Wenyan is right that it is sometimes hard to sustain motivation. Somewhere along the line I stopped as other things come into your life, and it was only recently that I discovered my printouts and remember I used to do that.

Wow, copying speech of drama characters...that really takes a lot of patience. God knows I've dabbled a little in it. Usually I'll just replay certain lines over and over again to catch certain phrases. But my listening comprehension is bad and I can't catch words easily. So that died a natural death <scratches head sheepishly>

Thinking of daily movements in Japanese? Did that sometimes too. But only...sometimes. Tend to have empty holes in the sentence I'm building up in my brain to describe something, and not knowing if the sentence is contructed mentally is grammatically correct, or if the order of things mentioned is correct or not. Hahaha...

But it is interesting to know about little tips on how others learn the language. =)


Ken
helloABC
Singapore, SG
Post #: 1
Hi !

Whatever I have written in this thread needs one to read between the lines. Don't be too naive ! Don't respond to them too quickly because it is easy to be caught with your pants down ! Do I expect a reply from Mr Tsubasa from my recent posting. Of course NOT ! Do I need you to tell me that ? A million times NO, because that is not my REAL purpose for the posting ! By the way, my posting was addressed only to Mr Tsubasa specifically.

To some, I have to say this, "I have eaten more salt than you have eaten rice!" Do learn to be humble by being "quiet" at time. It is simple to judge the true maturity of a person by their postings. This is definitely not an appropriate forum/thread for any form of debate/rebuttal. I rest my case.

Thank you.

Regards,
Assoc Professor Victor Ho (Adj)
NUS smile

I am normally a passive reader of this message board. Today I came across this posting and I like to share my thought.

From Lisa Edmondson quote,
“He who is humble is confident and wise. He who brags is insecure and lacking.”

A person maybe academically good in one discipline but may only be ordinary in other aspects.
Just having a big title doesn't means good in picking up a new language.
Sorry, I am not "quiet" this time.
jk
user 13782493
Singapore, SG
Post #: 1
Hi, may I know which school can prepare me the fastest for JLPT N4? I have other commitments later on so I wish to complete at least until JLPT N4 first. I think I can only take part-time studies now. Thankssmile
wy
user 3349532
Singapore, SG
Post #: 78
Hi, may I know which school can prepare me the fastest for JLPT N4? I have other commitments later on so I wish to complete at least until JLPT N4 first. I think I can only take part-time studies now. Thankssmile

For both Bunka and Ikoma, you should complete up to their intermediate courses.

Bunka EL 1-2 (2x9wks) + INT 1-4 (4x2mths) totals up to about 12.5 months.

Ikoma Basic 1 (2x10lessons) + Basic 2 (2x10lessons) + INT 1 (2x12lessons) + INT 2 (2x12lessons) totals up to 88 lessons but I think Ikoma has twice a week lessons for basic (not sure about intermediate), so that can cut it down to 68 weeks?

There are also other schools around, but I don't think they'll be 'faster' than these two? Maybe people who're attending other schools can provide more info.

Do factor in cost and distance as well when you decide which school to go to =)

Edit: Calculation error, should be 12.5 months, not 10.5.
jeanne
user 14071310
Singapore, SG
Post #: 1
okay, im a lil nervous right now since this is my first post. (and i seldom enter forums but this whole meetup group thing really sound like a fun one! especially so when all are japanese enthusiasts! was like wow when i found this site. (:)

okay so anyway, i just thought that since im finally earning some money from my part-time jobs, i can start paying for japanese lessons instead of just learning from a coursebook. so far the schools that i've read up from this thread are:

ikoma, bunka, aoba, hougang, inoue and JCS and yano.

but here are the cons that im facing after researching.

ikoma is really quite ex plus course pace seems to be slower than that of bunka's? but i figured from some replies that the waiting time for these 2 schools is long? can anyone kindly tell me how long is the waiting time?

and then for bunka there's the lack of manpower (teachers).

i was considering aoba when i realised that it takes one whole year to finish all 3 basic level, though price wise (per hour) is much more worth it. is 1 year for basic course considered too long?

JCS starts intake only in june...

inoue and yano aren't really convenient..

and because im looking at learning japanese as a long-term prospect (eg as an career option) so i really think i should invest in a proper school and somehow hougang does not seem to be convincing. or is there any student from hougang japanese school that can enlighten me on this doubt i have? =/

i really want to start learning japanese soon but am currently in a dilemma. most probably bunka or aoba? or can someone please give me advice here?

thank you!

p/s: so sorry! i just realised this post is a whole lot of questions! heheh! (:
p/s 2: hopefully im doing this right! ><
Samantha
user 14020298
Singapore, SG
Post #: 1
Hi everyone!

Firstly, just wanna say Hi to everyone in the forum! I'm a newbie to the meetup group.. Yoroshiku onegaishimasu! :)

Personally, I'm looking for a Japanese class (for JLPT level 1), in particular, a class with conversational practices.

I've been to JCS and Hougang Japanese school but I feel that they are more focused on written practice. However, i feel that my weakest area is in speaking and I'd really like to find a class that can help me improve on that. :)

Will anyone be able to give some recommendations for such classes?

Do let me know and many thanks in advance!! :D
Tsubasa
Tsubasa10
Singapore, SG
Post #: 464
I personally think for speaking, you have to just force yourself to speak.

Start by reciting songs, or doing shadowing conversations?
wy
user 3349532
Singapore, SG
Post #: 81
Hi Jeanne,

WELCOME! Well done on your research of the schools =)

I don't think we tell you any more than what you already know about what each school is like. If you want more information before you make your final decision, you can try going down to your candidate schools and see if you like the atmosphere. You might also want to try and see if they'll let you sit in a lesson for 15mins/half an hour?

For waiting time, depends on your level. Usually it's longer for the basic classes, but since you've self-studied some, maybe you can skip one or two sub-levels? You can always call the schools and ask when's the next available class you can join.

Pick your school soon, because the earlier you start, the better. Good luck!
wy
user 3349532
Singapore, SG
Post #: 82
Hi Samantha,

The higher level classes (JLPT 1) usually focus heavily on vocab/grammar/reading comprehension and not so much on conversation.

A few years back, I was also very weak in conversation despite having passed JLPT 2, so what I did was join Ikoma's pre-advanced classes (around JLPT 3). I think it helped me a little. (That was my friend's class and that class happened to be very talkative.)

If you only want to focus on conversation practice, you could search online for Japanese tutors too. I found my ex-tutor, a native Japanese lady, on Gumtree and was practising conversation with her for half a year. Helped me pass an interview for a job requiring Japanese and NOT crash and burn (almost did) when I started working in Japan.

Hope this helps =)
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