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Re: [kayaking-129] Sunny Saturday Paddle - hey debra.... i'm not going to be able to paddle saturday anyways, i have to go into work for a while tomorrow unexpectedly. i didn't anticipate the autumn Dec 11, 2009 9:07 PM
Re: stream turned to ice - Not a problem . Autumn had blades on the bottom of her kayak and will skate on top of the ice.. --- On Fri, 12/11/09, debra <dw Gary (. Dec 11, 2009 1:34 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Sunny Saturday Paddle - Autumn, there may be a problem checked out some creeks this morning and Little Beaver is frozen give me a call[masked] --- On Thu, 12/10/09, autu debra Dec 11, 2009 1:20 PM
Re: Sunny Saturday Paddle - I have another meet-up scheduled for Sat. I can go on Sunday. John V. Dec 11, 2009 10:27 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Sunny Saturday Paddle - where did you have in mind ? The mahoning river in New Castle is nice and the Connie from Zelinople has water and it flat so we will not wet I am not real debra Dec 10, 2009 10:02 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] Sunny Saturday Paddle - 36 degrees? not even remotely interested. bob   Bob Dec 10, 2009 9:53 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Sunny Saturday Paddle - would consider but this is last day of hunting and my freezer is still empty... --- On Thu, 12/10/09, autumn <[address removed]> wrot Gary (. Dec 10, 2009 9:45 AM
Sunny Saturday Paddle - is anyone up for a paddle this saturday? i know, i know... its cold. but saturday's forecast is for clear sunny skies and 36 degrees. not to menti autumn Dec 10, 2009 9:27 AM
New Meetup: Packsaddle Gap - maybe - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Packsaddle Gap on Sunday - maybe When: November 29,[masked]:00 AM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) i'd like Tim V. Nov 27, 2009 7:10 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Lite-Up Night - Dave et al, I will not be doing light up night/paddle tonight. Too cold and miserable and getting sick.? :(? Enjoy if you'all go! On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:12 AM, Dave Mottorn < kristi y. Nov 20, 2009 2:53 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: See Light Up Night from the River - Preview not available kristi y. Nov 19, 2009 10:00 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: See Light Up Night from the River - Kristi, it's an easy 2-mile paddle down from the Three Rivers Rowing Club's dock at Millvale to the music & fireworks at the 6th St. Bridge. The river should be running fairly slow so the current won't be an issue, and ther Mike C Nov 13, 2009 1:47 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: See Light Up Night from the River - Herrs Island is the "pre-redevelopment" name for Washington's Landing. About 3 miles to the Point from the Island. Be aware that the current can be slightly dece Sara Nov 12, 2009 6:51 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: See Light Up Night from the River - Preview not available kristi y. Nov 8, 2009 11:09 AM
Wet Weather Gear Testing - I'll be testing rain gear tomorrow on the Allegheny. Perfect weather; 10-13 mph wind with rain! Departing Millvale River Front Park put-in (below 40th St. Bridge) at 11 pm. Route will be south around Washington's Landing then north to the Highlan John V. Oct 30, 2009 3:15 PM
Conemaugh River Dam to Saltsburg, Sunday November 1 - Conemaugh River Dam to Saltsburg Tim V. Oct 29, 2009 8:43 PM
Seeking New Organizer for Pittsburgh Kayaker Social Group - Dear All, I love being a member of the Pittsburgh Kayaker Social Group, but as many of you have come to recognize, I don't get out to paddle as often as I would like. Many of you have really stepped up, and have taken on the respo Sara Oct 20, 2009 2:22 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] fri moon float at loy lake - p { margin: 0; } I am pretty sure that Hazelbakers closes when football season starts. At least that is the last heard.  Linda D Oct 7, 2009 3:42 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] fri moon float at loy lake - [masked]-RIVER Mark Oct 7, 2009 2:03 PM
Cypress Swamp Kayaking Trip - 2010 Ghost Bird Expedition Warm-Up In Jan or Feb I'm planning a kayak trip to search for the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker (AKA the Ghost Bird) in North Carolina and South Carolina cypress swamps. (If you want info about the Ivory-Billed story, get back John V. Oct 5, 2009 11:03 PM
New Meetup: Starlight float at Loyalhanna Lake - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Starlight float at Loyalhanna Lake When: September 19,[masked]:30 PM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) Weathe Tim V. Sep 17, 2009 4:40 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Loyalhanna Lake Night Float - short notice - Tim. Do canoes need state registration? Rick. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Vechter" To: Sent: Friday, September 04,[masked]:21 PM Subject: Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Loyalhanna Lake Night rick f. Sep 6, 2009 12:57 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Loyalhanna Lake Night Float - short notice - the big fast boats are off the water at dark. and there is the option of kayaking up lake where it is too shallow and narrow for the fast boats. most often at night i have the entire lake to myself. miles of lake. last night (thursday) i was the only Tim V. Sep 4, 2009 6:21 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Loyalhanna Lake Night Float - short notice - anyone interested in going to lake arthur instead. there is a horsepower limit, so no big fast boats. --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Tim Vechter <tow carla Sep 4, 2009 3:21 PM
New Meetup: Loyalhanna Lake Night Float - short notice - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Loyalhanna Lake Night Float - short notice When: September 4,[masked]:30 PM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) Tim V. Sep 4, 2009 1:27 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] fri moon float at loy lake - what time? Where is loyalhanna lake? --- On Thu, 9/3/09, kristi yager <[address removed]> wrote: carla Sep 3, 2009 9:59 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] fri moon float at loy lake - I'd be interested in doing that on the Ohio, from Sewickley! On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Tim Vechter < [address removed] > wrote: kristi y. Sep 3, 2009 3:57 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] fri moon float at loy lake - Why not���? Jared Sep 3, 2009 2:06 PM
fri moon float at loy lake - anyone interested in paddling friday sept 4 nite in the moonlite at loyalhanna lake, starting from bush recreational area? let me know. i'll also be stopping at loy lake tonight (thur) between 10:30 & 11:30 pm. full moon occurs fri sept[masked] Tim V. Sep 3, 2009 1:00 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] Fw: Packsaddle Gap tomorrow!! - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } That will be a nice trip for you autumn...i will be goin as well but i wi Kayakingpirate Aug 31, 2009 5:26 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Fw: Packsaddle Gap tomorrow!! - Thanks Autumn. I appreciate the invite but have a church picnic tomorrow. Chris Rishack --- On Sat, 8/29/09, autum Chris -Mr.Adventure,Kayak C. Aug 29, 2009 12:02 PM
Fw: Packsaddle Gap tomorrow!! - autumn Aug 29, 2009 11:46 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] Above Conemaugh Dam - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } i paddle this water often..and september is not a good time to paddl Kayakingpirate Aug 29, 2009 7:28 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] Above Conemaugh Dam - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } i would suggest two things: 1. go on meetup.com and do it you Bob Aug 26, 2009 3:51 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Above Conemaugh Dam - Would someone PLEASE remove my name from your mailing list??? I have made this request several times...thank you very much. --- Sandra Aug 26, 2009 1:58 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] Above Conemaugh Dam - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } I would be interested. Are you going to do a meetup? Bob & Bob Aug 26, 2009 10:44 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] Above Conemaugh Dam - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } hi dave i should finally be up to kayaking in sept...let me k Sharon Aug 26, 2009 10:40 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Safety Skills Practice - Rescheduled - Preview not available kristi y. Aug 22, 2009 11:19 AM
New Meetup: Safety Skills Practice - Rescheduled - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Safety Skills Practice - Rescheduled When: August 29,[masked]:00 PM Where: Raccoon Creek State Park Boat Launch & Rentals Mike C Aug 22, 2009 12:21 AM
Meetup details changed: Middle Yough on Sunday 8/23/09 - I've updated this Meetup. For more details, see the full listing: http://kayaking.meetup.com/129­/calendar/11129619/ When: August 23,[masked]:00 PM Where: Ohiopyle V Linda D Aug 21, 2009 7:43 PM
New Meetup: Middle Yough on Sunday 8/23/09 - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Middle Yough on Sunday 8/23/09 When: August 23,[masked]:00 PM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) So far the p Linda D Aug 17, 2009 10:29 AM
Safety Skills Practice Site - An excellent site for practicing wet exits, rescues etc is Keystone State Park Lake (the end near the dam). It offers: - A practice area just yards from a great launch area with a pebble beach. - Flat water - Clean lake water regularly teste John V. Aug 16, 2009 12:08 PM
Middle Yough this sunday - Tom N. Aug 13, 2009 1:19 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Meetup details changed: Safety Skills Practice - If I can make it, I also will bring bilge pump, paddle float, etc On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Kerry < [address removed] > wrote: kristi y. Aug 12, 2009 4:19 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Safety Skills Practice - Mike, ? Just wanted to alert any paddlers who use the Mon put-in down at Duck Hollow off Browns Hills Road that there is another volunteer trail cleanup with Allegheny Cleanways there this Friday evening from 5:00 to 8:00.? I Kerry Aug 12, 2009 2:51 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Meetup details changed: Safety Skills Practice - Mike, ? I'd like to make the Sunday outing but have to check in first with a friend who had said she?"might" need?help with some moving that day.? I'll know by Friday evening.? If I do come to the?"rescu Kerry Aug 12, 2009 2:14 PM
Meetup details changed: Safety Skills Practice - **Update: If you don't have your own boat, Mon Yough Outfitters [masked]), right there in Millvale Riverfront Park, has small Pelican recreational kayaks for rent, $10 per hour For more details, see the full listing: Mike C Aug 12, 2009 12:27 PM
New Meetup: Safety Skills Practice - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Safety Skills Practice When: August 16,[masked]:00 PM Where: Three Rivers Rowing Assn Millvale Riverfront Park Mill Mike C Aug 12, 2009 11:03 AM
New Meetup: Middle Yough trip Sat- camp Friday night - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Middle Yough trip Sat- camp Friday night When: August 14,[masked]:00 PM Where: (A location has not been chosen yet.) Pla Linda D Aug 11, 2009 3:29 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Dinner Paddle to Paradise Beach - Yay! I can't wait! On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Mike Cornell < [address removed] > wrote: kristi y. Aug 11, 2009 1:28 PM
New Meetup: Dinner Paddle to Paradise Beach - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Dinner Paddle to Paradise Beach When: Thursday August 20,[masked]:30 PM Where: Chestnut Street Boat Launch 100 Chestnut S Mike C Aug 10, 2009 7:36 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] Kayak Demo Tomorrow - Thanks for posting this -- I tried out a 12' Carolina that I fell in love with. Do you think my mortgage company will understand if I send their money this month to Exkursion? ;-) -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailt Judy Aug 10, 2009 12:53 PM
Kayak Demo Tomorrow - Exkursion (http://www.exkursion.com/) is having a kayak demo day tomorrow (Sunday) from 12-4 pm at Keystone St. Park. 40 boats to play with! I have no official connection with Exkursion, but they're good guys for the local paddling community. J John V. Aug 8, 2009 9:26 PM
good deal on sea kayaks on Craiglist today - For anyone looking for a kayak, I just spotted a new ad this morning on Pittsburgh Craigslist under "boats" selling two equipped sea kayaks for $400 each. ?Looks like a very good deal and I'm sure they will go fast. Kerry Aug 8, 2009 1:04 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Middle Yough this sunday - rick f. Aug 8, 2009 9:53 AM
Meetup Cancelled: Rare Earth Concert & Fireworks Paddle - Sorry, canceling the Rare Earth Concert & Fireworks Paddle due to lack of interest. Mike C Aug 7, 2009 8:43 PM
Re: Bargain tip - cheap waterproof camera - Kerry, You're absolutely right, it would be nice to have a viewfinder. But do any of the waterproof cameras Mike C Aug 6, 2009 11:45 PM
Middle Yough this sunday - Tom N. Aug 6, 2009 4:08 PM
Middle Yough this sunday - hello all! anyone interested in paddling the middle yough this sunday? i have a few people interes autumn Aug 6, 2009 12:17 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Re: Bargain tip - cheap waterproof camera - p { margin: 0; } I had to add my experience here. not as much as Kerry's- but hey- I just found a new waterproof camera. Linda D Aug 6, 2009 9:45 AM
Re: Bargain tip - cheap waterproof camera - That is a good deal for a waterproof camera -- my only reservation about that?model for kayaking is it has no viewfinder.?I realize that doesn't bother some people, but I just wanted to alert people that if you've always used a camera with a Kerry Aug 6, 2009 9:38 AM
Bargain tip - cheap waterproof camera - If anyone is looking for a good deal on a waterproof camera, here's a tip. I bought an 8-megapixel Olympus Stylus 850 Mike C Aug 5, 2009 9:31 PM
New Meetup: Rare Earth Concert & Fireworks Paddle - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Rare Earth Concert & Fireworks Paddle When: August 9,[masked]:30 PM Where: Millvale Riverfront Park Millvale Pi Mike C Aug 4, 2009 11:28 PM
New Meetup: Moon Light Paddle - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Moon Light Paddle When: August 8,[masked]:30 PM Where: Steve's River Resort 641 Canal Rosd Apollo, PA[masked] Steve Aug 3, 2009 7:57 PM
sunday possibility - the recent rains will have the Conemaugh River thru Packsaddle Gap in play. river level looks to be around 2.4 - 2.3 ft. anyone interested? tim Tim V. Jul 31, 2009 1:21 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - Preview not available Jason D. Jul 24, 2009 9:48 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - Jason, Are you from USC? Bart Hardy ______________________________­__ From: [address removed] on behalf of Jason Dailey Sent: Thu 7/23/[masked]:18 PM To: [address removed] Subject: Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bik user 9. Jul 23, 2009 11:14 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - Preview not available Jason D. Jul 23, 2009 10:18 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - Preview not available Dan Jul 23, 2009 9:34 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - hey folks, i'd do the Sat. float middle yough but i will be assisting in a group float elsewhere. Sunday is out also for me unless other plans change. i am itching to do the middle yough. i can do it Tuesday 7/28 if anyone else is game. a weekday o Tim V. Jul 23, 2009 9:18 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - p { margin: 0; } Hi ALL! We can't do Sat, but we were planning a trip up there on Sunday. If anyone wants to go again Linda D Jul 23, 2009 11:47 AM
New Meetup: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Middle Yough Bike/Paddle Saturday When: July 25,[masked]:00 AM Where: Ohiopyle Visitor Center 4 Negley St. Ohiopyl Gary (. Jul 23, 2009 5:59 AM
RE: Kayaking volunteers needed for Pittsburgh Triathalon 7/26 - Judy Jul 18, 2009 12:35 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Sewickley kayakers - Hello All, I would be interested in this paddle next month. Living in the Rochester area, I have don Chris -Mr.Adventure,Kayak C. Jul 15, 2009 10:07 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] Spam and the real Marcia - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } this topic has run its course. move on. Bob Jul 15, 2009 9:48 PM
Spam and the real Marcia - Kerry - Thank you for for your thoughtful and appropriate response. I work at a local university and spam is a daily occurrence - annoying, but a Marcia Jul 15, 2009 9:01 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] re:Advice on Spammers - I second Kerry's response. I am also an organizer of another group. There are things being done by MeetUp central and there are conversations being emailed betw David Jul 15, 2009 12:09 PM
re:Advice on Spammers - A constructive suggestion: the spam-bot that sent that message is not going to be in the least bit affected by your wrathful response (and consider your fellow group members -- is being copied on someone's hissy fit a useful contribution to the posts? Kerry Jul 15, 2009 9:37 AM
Sewickley kayakers - Preview not available kristi y. Jul 14, 2009 5:38 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Hey - I got the same email from this and the other groups too. Don't take it as i5 was just u. On Tue, Jul 14,[masked]:41 am, Ann wrote: > I agree.?? > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob wrote: > >> Personally, I find this Beverly B. Jul 14, 2009 1:08 PM
RE: [kayaking-129] Hey - Sorry, didn't mean to send it to everyone --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Bob <[address removed]> wrote: Rob P. Jul 14, 2009 1:08 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Hey - rob, why not just do what you threatened to do in your p.s. and get closure? i usu. don't subscribe to retributive justice, but in this instance, it might be for the greatest good.... --- On Tue, 7/14/09, Ann wrote: > From: carolyn Jul 14, 2009 12:03 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] Hey - I agree.?? On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Bob < [address removed] > wrote: Ann Jul 14, 2009 11:39 AM
RE: [kayaking-129] Hey - .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { font-size: 10pt; font-family:Verdana } Personally, I find this response inappropriate at best. Bob Jul 14, 2009 11:18 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Hey - Marcia! I wanted to thank you for taking time out of your busy day to spam me. Please feel free to fuck off and die now. Thanks, Rob Rob P. Jul 14, 2009 10:58 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny - hello everyone... i'm afraid the overnight allegheny river trip will have to be postponed. i hope to reschedule it for a weekend in august. i will send out details as soon as i can confirm a date. thanks everyone for your interest! --autumn autumn Jul 13, 2009 2:51 PM
New Meetup: Raccoon Creek Lake Paddle and swim - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Raccoon Creek Lake Paddle and swim When: July 12,[masked]:45 PM Where: Raccoon State Park 3000 State Route 18, Hook Gary (. Jul 10, 2009 4:25 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] hunting/fishing kayak - If anyone is interested in a brand new kayak suitable for fishing (not sure about hunting....), mine is still for sale. Emotion Advant-edge. Brand new, still in wrap from dealer. Per the website: Sara Jul 9, 2009 9:26 PM
Re: plastic barge - Point well taken. Any purchase used , should be compared to what it costs new. I also would never suggest to buy a kayak without sitting in it Gary (. Jul 9, 2009 4:09 PM
Re: [kayaking-129] hunting/fishing kayak - Yeah, the guy wants $500 for it as I recall -- hardly a bargain for a plastic barge and you can get a new one for that. I usually refer people to www.paddling.net and their classifieds for better deals. On 7/9/09, Gary (BYRDMAN) Kerry Jul 9, 2009 3:58 PM
hunting/fishing kayak - I have gotten a lot of requests for trying to find a nice fishing kayak, and just noticed a nice kayak on craigslist just posted today. usually kayaks are sold very quickly on craigslist. check it out if interested.. Gary (. Jul 9, 2009 2:46 PM
Kayaking the Iron City - FYI Kayaking the Iron City (doesnt mention drinking one ) http://away.com/features/urban­-kayaking-pittsburgh.html isis Jul 8, 2009 8:35 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny - i wanna go kayaking but you're always busy!!! pick a freakin' day and we'll go!!! --- On Tue, 7/7/09, jim wrote: > From: jim > Subject: Re: [kayaking-129] Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny > T autumn Jul 7, 2009 11:12 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny - Preview not available jim Jul 7, 2009 10:53 AM
Re: [kayaking-129] Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny - Autumn, I like to go but you have to call me , I need some info, Jared 412 9 Jared Jul 7, 2009 10:38 AM
Overnight Kayak Trip on the Upper Allegheny - Hello All... I am planning another paddle/camp trip on the Upper Allegheny River in Forest County. This trip is tentatively set for the weekend of July 18-19 with an alternate date of July 25-26 depending on response. I plan to paddle from autumn Jul 7, 2009 10:30 AM
New Meetup: Monday Moonlight Paddle ( Canonsburg Lake) - Announcing a new Meetup for Pittsburgh Kayaker (ka-"yack"-er) Social Group! What: Monday Moonlight Paddle ( Canonsburg Lake) When: July 6,[masked]:00 PM Where: Canonsburg Lake McDowell Lane Canonsb Gary (. Jul 6, 2009 9:53 AM
2 outfitters I want to turn you on to in WVA - p { margin: 0; } ALthough, i've been to both of these outfitt Linda D Jul 6, 2009 9:04 AM
Hidden Canoe Trail Pictures posted - If you get a chance check out Chris's pictures of the hidden Canoe trail at Moraine for friday night's paddle. The ones of the Osprey are very good... Gary (. Jul 5, 2009 11:34 PM
Re: Re: [kayaking-129] Yough water trail brochure - Yough Water Trail maps are available on line at : http://www.pecpa.org/Yough_Wat­er_Trail John V. Jul 3, 2009 11:54 AM

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