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The Great Auckland Housing Debate

  • Jun 19, 2014 · 6:00 PM
  • The Coffee Club

Everyone is saying housing is too expensive, especially in Auckland. 

What are the alternatives, given we all need somewhere to live and have an expectation of a certain standard of living.

• Council's unitary plan allowing higher density housing - will it help?

• Is the iconic kiwi 1/4 acre section sustainable these days?

• Should developers be allowed to continue building 'exclusive gated communities' or should they be forced to develop a range of house options to balance the landscape more?

• Is investing in property really doing our society any long term favours?  Why are some people able to leverage their properties and buy dozens of rentals, and in the process are they keeping others from getting into their own property?

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  • Louis S.

    Good to see you

    June 20, 2014

  • A former member
    A former member

    Hi guys I'm held up at work with a flooding so I won't make it sorry, I have left a message on Ziggy and Monique's mobiles (I confirmed the table earlier in teh week)

    June 19, 2014

  • Maureen

    Great to hear good news about China. Look forward to hearing about it when you get back. I concur r with Barry's suggestion.

    June 12, 2014

  • margaret

    Louis could u please contact Alice from veg cooking I have misplaced your email and cannot email thru this site privately

    June 10, 2014

  • Maureen

    Hi Peter, due to low response, and also I feel we need a full table ( or near to), to effectively discuss this with equilibrium, I'm okay if this is pushed out one week.

    June 9, 2014

  • Ziggy

    Guys, remember to book the table with the Coffee Club staff if/when you want to meet. They appreciate a call beforehand - 3799866. I can't make it this time.

    June 9, 2014

  • Peter

    I'm surprised at the low level of RSVP so far (just 2). Given this was usually sold out within an hour under Ziggy's leadership it seems very strange.
    Maureen and Barry - how would you feel if we pushed this out one week?

    June 8, 2014

  • Virginia M.

    Will follow this discussion with interest

    June 7, 2014

  • Virginia M.

    Unable to attend but this is a really important topic to raise in this election year!

    June 7, 2014

  • Peter E.

    As I said in an earlier post I'm doing some volunteer work at our local cinema. That's why I'm not able to attend the next 3 to 4 meetings.

    June 6, 2014

  • Megan O.

    NZ is attractive to overseas investors and residential property is being sold off-shore. Auckland is rapidly growing, and we need to stop pretending otherwise and provide sufficient quality housing and other infrastructure in accordance with good planning principles. Also we need regulatory controls to stop more property being sold to overseas investors. Leasehold properties are probably a good option, but they are just one part of the solution. Affordable rents are also an issue- one that has been fuelled by the way the benefits are paid (accommodation supplement- which is essentially a benefit paid to landlords to subsidise their investments). In some schools in Auckland, kids attend for only a term before shifting schools, because their families are forever relocating in search of somewhere affordable to live. Poor quality of housing is also a nationwide issue- our houses are freezing and damp..... wow I really could go on and on about this topic!

    June 6, 2014

  • Megan O.

    No the 1/4 acre is not sustainable from an economic or social perspective- it doesn't promote community, and it promotes urban sprawl into productive farmland and further environmental destruction by cars and lengthy commuting times. Gated communities with appalling covenants which destroy architectural and cultural diversity and create ticky tacky landscapes are a blight on Auckland. There is no problem with a few rental properties (e.g. for students etc who don't want to buy) the problem is that a majority of NZers now want to buy but can't afford to- particularly Gen X, Y and Z, and marginalised populations.

    June 6, 2014

  • Megan O.

    I can't attend sorry, so here is my 2 cents cos this is an issue close to my heart :-) Of course the Unitary Plan will help but it didn't go far enough with increasing urban density and providing affordable, quality housing near public transport routes, and the delays in implementing it are costly- too many NIMBYists because mostly those who have the time and inclination to submit on these matters are of an older generation and they look backwards to how they remember Auckland, not forwards, to what the future generations need.

    June 6, 2014

  • Jeff B.

    Barry, your idea sounds good, but would it work? The private sector has met the needs for housing in the past, however due to Govt incentives been withdrawn, this has been significantly reduced. While there is capital gain to be had, supply will keep trying to catch up with demand, however now we are near the top of the cycle, the private sector will disappear and Govt will have to step in. In the past, Govt has purchased land + buildings, then sold it again with a guaranteed rent. They made instant money and supplied housing (however rent was subsidised). With your idea, Govt will buy land (+ buildings) and on-sell at a peppercorn rent, hence huge immediate losses. To make a macro difference to inflation, it may take 30 years to buy up enough land to make a difference, all the while losing money.
    The theory is good, however can the country afford it plus it has communist overtones and do we really want to plant that seed?

    June 6, 2014

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