Re: [linux-393] A question on Thunderbird...

From: user 3.
Sent on: Thursday, May 24, 2007 9:48 AM

Mateus Justino wrote:

Wow.  That was totally assholic of me.  I just reread your response
and saw that you were only asking questions.  The first time I read
it, I thought that it had devolved into#one of those blame MS first
debates.
Not a problem. I thought as much. That's why I didn't reply. I is common thought as I've always said; email tends to lack that 3rd dimension of communications which often results in the message being read differently than intended. No harm done though.
Anyway, there is some serious bloat in Linux, a lot of it in the
graphical end and lots of memory usage and spill over disk usage that
one wouldn't expect.  I don't know enough to compare its demands of
hardware against that of Windows.  I've just seen a lot more
unresponsiveness in Linux and that if I had a n old Pentium II or
anything earlier, I'd run Windows 98 instead of most Linux distros.
But, if I had a server and needed to host a site with tons of page
accesses, I would use MySQL and Apache.
This is precisely the mode I operate under. I've not yet attempted to move to Linux on my desktop although with all the drum beating and various distros, and now companies like Dell pushing them as a built to ship OS, I am very tempted to give it a run.

Don't get me wrong, I don't shun MS technology. In fact, much of what they deliver is quite creative. What I am not found of is their business practices and additionally their desire to own you as well as your information. Again, very creative from the business perspective just not as healthy as it should be, in my honest option that is. Have you read much on Microsoft Live Mail? And, to be fare, I'll add that MS is not alone as this is also much the way Google operates as does AOL and Yahoo. Keep in mind, that it is very rare that a third party will always act in your best interest when monetary gain is involved. Personally, and quite literally, I'm about delivering control of personal information value to the information owner. Then we let the owner decide what they would like to do with that value. Now this is a conversation I would very much like to sit and discus in depth.

Cheers!
frank

On 5/23/07, Matthew Page-Lieberman <[address removed]> wrote:
> When I'm waiting a few minutes for OpenOffice to load, I'm not losing
> time because of Bill Gates or MS.  They're not the ones that decided
> to back end so much of OOo in Java.
> Why is it there fault if efficiency is just a theoretic after thought
> in so many open source applications?
>
> On 5/23/07, Frank Urro <[address removed]> wrote:
> > Do you think the slowness with apps like OpenOffice (and maybe event
> > Thunderbird) are because they are optimized for a Linux OS? Is it really
> > fare attempting to compare performance on a Windows Machine where we
> > know OS author does everything in their power to deep-six any and all
> > OpenSource efforts.
> >
> > Mateus Justino wrote:
> > > <https://www.vqme.com/pk/heldemail>;
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmm.  I've had problems with Thunderbird when opening and it's almost
> > > not responding when attempting to contact all the different mail
> > > servers.  Never noticed a problem with content panes taking too long.
> > > I guess I always figured it was the slow connection.  Come to think of
> > > it, it was sluggishm but in comparison with Outlook, don't know.  Only
> > > ran Outlook from a company computer with VMWare to connect  to a
> > > private network in another part of the country when I was in Brazil.
> > > Now, that was slow.  But if you really want to know what slow is and
> > > you're not doing anything and you have the fastest hardware on the
> > > market, try OpenOffice.
> > > On 5/23/07, Frank Urro <[address removed]> wrote:
> > > > I can not make this evening, but could someone give me some hints as
> to
> > > > whether or not I should see faster, slower or the same speed
> performance
> > > > with Thunderbird as I do (did) with MS Outlook (not Outlook Express)?
> > > >
> > > > I've recently made the jump to TB 2.0 and when I first loaded it
> things
> > > > were pretty good. Now, things are getting a bit sluggish when you jump
> > > > between emails waiting for the body pane to render. The very same
> emails
> > > > render instantly when jumping from email to email in Outlook.
> > > >
> > > > Have I overlooked a setting somewhere?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Frank Urro
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