I don't think political correctness necessarily means forcing others
to 'think/talk' like them. For me it means being considerate of
others so forgetting the legal aspects of making laws against using
certain terms - it's more a matter of respect - not using certain
words that others would find offensive. And trying to be inclusive of
others. This doesn't need to be forced but I think it's a good thing
to keep in mind.
This is why I was asking for a definition of political correctness -
do you only mean things that are forced/made into law or would you
term adjusting one's own language voluntarily so as not to cause
offense to others political correctness as well?
I think we can keep freedom of speech and yet be considerate/
inclusive of others.
You can say what you like to someone but they may be offended
that's your choice.
Just out of curiousity, how do people feel about the incitement to
hatred laws - for example, do you think it's right to outlaw people
from making speeches that encourage violence or hatred towards
another ethnic group?
On 6 Jul 2007, at 13:43, George wrote:
> Kat - obviously you are expressing your personal view on what you
> think and feel is right (equality).
> I suggest, the issue with political correctness is not one of
> equality, but whether one group of people who hold a certain view
> can enforce another group to "think/talk" like them.
> Political correctness seems to say that there is only one correct
> way of talking/thinking (that which produces equality). This by
> definition is against freedom of
> However, even this does not make political correctness 'wrong', it
> just means you personally value equality over freedom of speech.
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> Date: Fri, 6 Jul[masked]:04:47 -0400 (EDT)
> I get really frustrated about the current trend to be anti-
> political correctness. True, it can be taken too far, but its
> general principles I agree with. Things like changing the language
> to be all- inclusive - it's very hard, as a woman, to feel included
> in a discussion when the general human is said to be a 'he' - so
all for political correctness in that aspect. In terms of
> trying to get more minorities, etc into jobs, I think it's more
> important to get qualified people than a specific demographic;
> however, white men have been monopolizing most of civilization for
> so long, I can see the wish to address the balance (reverse
> discrimination). I think the best thing is to aim for equality of
> opportunity (starting at school level) so these patterns don't
> Perhaps political correctness needs to be defined before we can
> have a proper debate about it.
> On 6 Jul 2007, at 06:26, Maliu wrote:
>> In discussing the
Politicals of Language, there is
>> also Political Correctness.
>> I found the following cute script on the subject.
>> Is Political Correctness against Freedom of Expression.
>> The answer is a yes, and it will be so for all times.
>> Political correctness came about to be a lot more political than
>> correct and that is why the term was born. In spite of the good
>> wishes of its naive parents it stopped being good quite early on.
>> In fact I do remember a while ago Uncle Compassion and Auntie
>> Responsibility had tried to talk the young kid into the real
>> Correctness, but the child has his bright eyes gazing into the
>> one reality at a time. Now not wanting to get too far from your real
>> question, Free Speech. This kid has had the epic wars with
>> that did hide inside an outside of anything that was moving, but the
>> Political Correctness story is sure new. It really does not move, its
>> lame and I can't believe any one wanting to take issue with any thing
>> inhabiting it. I do think political correctness is really not
>> correct, it is
>> just political and if it is just political it must be against
>> Free Speech.
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