The Riddle of the Labyrinth by Margalit Fox

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  • Eileen T.

    Time line continued The Babylonian captivity or Babylonian exile is the period in Jewish history during which a number of Jews of the ancient Kingdom of Judah were captives in Babylonia. After the Battle of Carchemish in 605 BCE, Nebuchadnezzar besieged Jerusalem, resulting in tribute being paid by King Jehoiakim.

    Georgian and Armenian scripts; contemporaneous; much later

    1 · 3h ago

  • Eileen T.

    Time line continued

    Linear B -- Myceanean culture; mainland Greece, conquered Minoan Crete (Knossos) 1400 BC. Linear B Crete (Knossos), and mainland (Pylos, Mycenae, Thebes, Tiryns) c. 1450 – 1200 BC

    Gilgamesh -- The earliest cuneiform references to Gilgamesh are a cycle of Sumerian poems. These poems include many of the stories that would make up the later, more-famous Epic of Gilgamesh, written in the Akkadian language. The latest and most comprehensive telling of the Gilgamesh legend was the twelve-tablet Standard Babylonian Version, compiled circa 1200 BC (Note: this is the only one I found a date for) Gilgamesh is generally seen by scholars as a historical figure, since inscriptions have been found which confirm the existence of other figures associated with him in the epic. If Gilgamesh existed, he probably was a king who reigned sometime between 2800 and 2500 BC.

    2 · 3h ago

  • Eileen T.

    Time line of what we discussed yesterday (posted in parts Our Bablonian artifact was from "The Akkadian Empire (2334–2154 BC) which saw the Akkadian Semites and Sumerians of Mesopotamia unite under one rule, and the Akkadians fully attain ascendancy over the Sumerians and come to dominate much of the ancient Near East."

    Linear A -- The Minoan civilization flourished from approximately 2600 to 1400 BC. Linear A is one of two currently undeciphered writing systems used in ancient Greece (Cretan hieroglyphic is the other). Linear A was the primary script used in palace and religious writings of the Minoan civilization. Cretan Hieroglyphic Crete c. 2100 – 1700 BC Linear A Aegean islands (Kea, Kythera, Melos, Thera), and Greek mainland (Laconia) c. 2500 – 1450 BC

    1 · 3h ago

  • sean d

    My question about the book was selfishness. The book was a celebration of scientific method... organize & share what your findings are.

    1 · Yesterday

    • Carol R.

      I think the norm in the sciences is NOT to share findings until you've published them. People want to protect their intellectual property, especially since tenure depends on it.

      2 · Yesterday

    • Eileen T.

      I agree with Carol. Collaboration is generally between scientists with related but different specialties. For example, a friend of ours is an evolutionary biologist. She's at UW-Parkside and specializes in bone; a colleague at U of Chicago specializes in neural development. They are jointly applying for a grant to ascertain whether increasing acidity in Lake Michigan affects development of yellow perch.

      3h ago

  • Eileen T.

    Our Babylonian artifact for "automatically" recording temple offerings of a certain type (oxen I think) on clay was dated 2200 BC to 2000 BC. We bought it in the 1980s from Harlan J. Berk, Ltd. in Chicago which is still a respected company but now specializes more in coins than antiquities. I haven't figured out how to post photos on here, but we can bring our little stone artifact and some clay (or Playdough) to the next meeting and show you how it works.

    1 · 3h ago

  • Eileen T.

    Here is a sample of Georgian script:
    ჩემს სტუდენტებს მე უკეთესად ვერ აგიხსნით. გია ეძგვერაძის კომენტარი: ყ უ რ ა დ ღ ე ბ ა — შ ე დ ე ვ რ ი:
    ამიტომ მიყვარს განვითარებადი ქვეყნების ველური არქიტექტურა! — მის განუმეორებელ ირაციონალიზმში იხატება დამოუკიდებელი, გარემოს შეფასებებში და კრიტერიუმებში დაუინტერესებელი ზე-ნება; კანონის და რეგულაციების სრულიად გაუგებარი გზებით და ფანტასტიკური დოზით გარღვევა (პრაქტიკულ, ადმინისტრაციულ-რუტინულ მხარესაც ვგულისხმობ!).
    ეს კონკრეტული შემთხვევა კი ზე-სუბიექტურობის ნამდვილად უნიკალური მაგალითია და შესაძლებელია ზე-ბუნებრივი (ან უპირობო) სიყვარულის გაცხადებულ პლასტიურ ფორმულადაც აღიქვას ადამიანმა... უფრო პოეტური, ძნელია რაიმე მოიგონოს ან წარმოიდგინოს კაცმა. პოეტური, აქ ეგზისტენციალურად ხორციელდება (მის ფორმალურ/ისტორიულ გამოვლინებებთან მიმართების მიღმა) და სწორედ ამიტომ პოეტურის უიშვიათეს, აბსოლუტურად ავთენტურ სახეს ვხედავთ.

    1 · 3h ago

  • leonard /.

    I LEARNED A LOT TODAY.. THANK YOU ALL! SONNY

    2 · Yesterday

  • Carol R.

    I just finished the book last night; I've been listening to it (audio book). I was hoping to warm up to Kober more than I did, and I confess I nodded off during the epilogue, but on the whole I enjoyed it.

    Is anybody else here reading these books as Audible Books? Just curious.

    Also curious about this: Now that the riddle is solved, is the language still called Linear B?

    1 · 6 days ago

    • Carol

      I studied the symbols too and it was like a connection to the past to see them.

      2 days ago

    • Carol R.

      The audio book came with a pdf file of the illustrations, and the narrator lets you know when to look at the pdf. I had a hard copy of the book from the library (from before I downloaded the audio book), so I was able to see the illustrations.

      1 · 2 days ago

  • leonard /.

    THIS NEXT ONE IS A "BIT CONFUSING" TO SAY THE LEAST! BUT, I'LL BE THERE ..

    2 days ago

  • Leo F.

    Unfortunately I have to miss this one since I'll be out of town. You all have fun!

    2 days ago

  • leonard /.

    I JUST GOT THE BOOK TODAY...I HOPE TO FINISH READING IT BY SUNDAY..

    July 27

  • Eileen T.

    A bit later counting in centuries but still Greek, and a topic I thought this group would like: how do we know what is real:
    http://ed.ted.com/lessons/plato-s-allegory-of-the-cave-alex-gendler#review

    1 · July 18

  • sean d

    I think the 2nd will work... will know for sure by next Saturday

    May 30

  • Leo F.

    Megan and Sean, I'll put both of you as co-hosts. Would August 2 work?

    May 26

    • Megan Hawley S.

      I think so? There is a small chance I'd be out of town, but I think I can make it work!

      May 26

    • Leo F.

      Ok, just let me know once you know for sure so I can set the date. Thank you for volunteering :)

      May 26

  • sean d

    If it involves bringing doughnuts & letting people babble (about what the author has brought us) then I can do it...

    1 · May 25

    • Leo F.

      Thanks, Sean. Ideally the discussion leader should have a few questions prepared in advance to stimulate discussion. Doughnuts would be nice, but I'm afraid that would be frowned upon by the bookstore...

      May 26

  • Megan Hawley S.

    As long as the date works, I'm also happy to lead, I loved this book!

    3 · May 25

  • Leo F.

    Any volunteers to lead this discussion?

    May 24

  • sean d

    Ancient Tablets & Lost Languages; this sounds interesting

    1 · November 26, 2013

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