November 16, 2009 7:30 PM - 66 attended

PZ Myers "Should Intelligent Design Be Taught In The Schools?"

Dr. Jerry Bergman and Dr. PZ Myers will be debating the topic: "Should Intelligent Design Be Taught In The Schools?"

This event is sponsored by the Christian Student Fellowship and Campus Atheists, Skeptics and Humanists.

The event is held at the North Star Ballroom, St. Paul Student Center (Buford Ave. near Cleveland Ave.)

Dr Jerry Bergman

Ph.D., Biology

Biography

Jerry Bergman has taught biology, genetics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, geology, and microbiology at Northwest State College in Archbold OH for over 17 years. Now completing his 9th degree, Dr Bergman is a graduate of Medical College of Ohio, Wayne State University in Detroit, The University of Toledo, and Bowling Green State University. He has over 600 publications in 12 languages and 20 books and monographs. He has also taught at the Medical College of Ohio where was a research associate in the department of experimental pathology, and he also taught 6 years at the University of Toledo, and 7 years at Bowling Green State University.

Among his books is a monograph on peer evaluation published by the College Student Journal Press, a Fastback on the creation-evolution controversy published by Phi Delta Kappa, a book on vestigial organs with Dr George Howe (‘Vestigial Organs’ are Fully Functional), a book on psychology and religious cults, a book on religious discrimination published by Onesimus Press, and a book on mental health published by Claudius Verlag in München. He has also published a college textbook on evaluation (Boston, Houghton Mifflin Co.), and has contributed to dozens of other textbooks. He was also a consultant for over 20 science text books, mostly biology and biochemistry.

Dr Bergman has presented over one hundred scientific papers at professional and community meetings in the United States, Canada, and Europe. To discuss his research, he has been a featured speaker on many college campuses throughout the United States and Europe, and is a frequent guest on radio and television programs. His research has made the front page in newspapers throughout the country, has been featured by the Paul Harvey Show several times, and has been discussed by David Brinkley, Chuck Colson, and other nationally known commentators on national television.

His other work experience includes over ten years experience at various Mental Health/Psychology clinics as a licensed professional clinical counselor and three years full time corrections research for a large county circuit court in Michigan and inside the walls of Jackson Prison (SPSM), the largest walled prison in the world. He has also served as a consultant for CBS News, ABC News, Reader’s Digest, Amnesty International, several government agencies and for two Nobel Prize winners, including the inventor of the transistor. In the past decade he has consulted or has testified as an expert witness or consultant in almost one-hundred court cases. A Fellow of the American Scientific Association, member of The National Association for the Advancement of Science, and many other professional associations, he is listed in Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in the Midwest and in Who’s Who in Science and Religion.

Dr PZ Myers

Paul Zachary "PZ" Myers (born March 9, 1957) is an American biology professor at the University of Minnesota Morris (UMM) and the author of the science blog Pharyngula. He is currently an associate professor of biology at UMM,[1] works with zebrafish in the field of evolutionary developmental biology (evo-devo), and also cultivates an interest in cephalopods. He is a public critic of intelligent design (ID) and of the creationist movement in general and is an activist in the American creation-evolution controversy.

  • Josh Bruhn
    Josh Bruhn

    Do we have to pay for tickets at the gate or something?

    Posted October 26, 2009 at 5:13 AM
  • justin chase
    justin chase

    Do we have to register somewhere to get tickets or can we just print out the ticket here and use that? Are there fee's etc?

    Posted November 2, 2009 at 9:27 PM
  • A former member

    No tickets, no fees.

    Posted November 2, 2009 at 9:28 PM
  • Kristin
    Kristin

    Can't wait!

    Posted November 9, 2009 at 3:46 PM
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66 attended
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  • Oliver
    Jerry Bergman, watchmaker proponent, had his clock cleaned quite thoroughly. He self-pwned by not actually debating the topic, but PZ Myers was right on the ball. In debate, PZ comes across very affably although there were occasional flashes of Pharyngulate fire.
  • Doug Meyer
    +1 guest
    PZ Myers' contributions were great. Bergman's were awful.
  • Kristen Nixon
    It was my first "real" debate that I've attended I enjoyed it but was very irritated that Dr. Bergman spent most of his time telling us about himself and not debating the issue, and when he did finally speak on the debate most everything he said was just illogical and had nothing to do to defend his side of the topic, next time I see PZ I hope I see someone give him a bit of a run for his money
  • Carol Thomas
    PZ made his point very clear, very logical. Dr. Bergmann never even answered his side of the question. Bergmann only wanted to promote his books. I felt it was a very weak debate on Dr. Bergmann's side.
  • Karen Mc
    I think that the conversations and questions were remarkably civil, given the subject matter, but as an intellectual discussion, I do not feel that the "yes" side of the argument presented a rational case, based on evidence, for the teaching of ID/creationism in the public school science classroom.
  • Jordan
    I thought Dr. Myers did a great job explaining why we shouldn't teach ID in schools, but I thought the other debater was hard to follow and strayed off topic too much. Dr. Borello did a good job mediating the event even though he was out of his element.
  • Kristin
    +1 guest
    One-sided debate. Had no chair. Couldn't hear the speakers talking from the back, most of the time.
  • Rick Schauer
    PZ did a wonderful job explaining why science is not supportive of ID in schools.
  • Bob Schmitz
    PZ Meyer clearly won this debate. Instead of addressing the question PZ's opponent spent his first 10 minutes denigrating atheists. I found him offensive. PZ's arguments were clear and concise, providing me with some additional ideas for addressing the I.D.er.
  • Rrandy Marciniak
    It wasn't really a fair fight. Dr. Jerry Bergman did not provide a coherent explanation, or even an adequate defense, of his position in favor of Intelligent Design being taught in schools. His main point was that he, and others who believe as he does, have been shunned by most scientists. But, of course, this is what happens when you propose nonsensical fluff to reasonable people - they ignore you.
  • justin chase
    It was great but, frankly, dr. Bergman was seriously outmatched.
  • Brad Bolin
    Bergman was pretty lame. PZ calmly dissected him. Sound system could have been better.
  • juliet Branca
    PZ Myers did a fine job defending evolution and deflating ID. Dr Bergman, on the other hand, was very poor, confusing and a bad, bad spokesman for the ID side. Then again, how can he defend the indefensible? Still, I enjoyed the discussion but doubt that any participants were swayed one way or the other. Appreciated the civillity; didn't care for the question segment but not sure what could be done to improve it. Will attend anything where Dr Myers is a participant.
  • michael penfield
    I would go to more debates in the future.
  • Greg
    Good points by Myers though he could speak just a little louder. I agree, Intelligent Design should not be taught in schools. Even if evolution is not true, that does not make ID true, which was Bergman's fallback.
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