RE: [mnatheists] A Note Regarding Samuel

From: Chris
Sent on: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 9:38 PM
I think you misread that Josh. ;)

He said we like to know what non-ATHEISTS are saying about us, not non-theists. :P


From: [address removed]
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [mnatheists] A Note Regarding Samuel
Date: Wed, 16 Dec[masked]:36:06 -0500

I'm not particularly interested in what this crackpot has to say, but I would really enjoy being a part of an ongoing email chain conversation.

Regarding Matthew's comment "we (atheists) like to know what non-atheists are saying to and about us."  I'm an atheist, but I have to object on behalf of non-theists.  This Samuel weirdo is just a, well... weirdo, and he doesn't represent non-theists any more than that guy who did the Virginia Tech massacre represented atheists, even though he professed atheism.

On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:22 PM, Matthew Richardson wrote:

Thank you Glenn Beard, I like your comment.  Like you, I'm not keen to close the comments about this matter. Most of us are atheists and we like to know what non-atheists are saying to and about us.
--Matthew

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:01 PM, glenn beard <[address removed]> wrote:
Comrades,

Isn't it curious how many of us had no idea each other was there,
how large the distribution list might be, and how interested in each
other's comments we might be before an event like this kicked it off?

I'm not keen to close the comments about this either... while not
everyone may be interested, surely they can set up a filter to put
this thread into a separate directory (folder).
Perhaps we've stumbled upon a very untapped sounding board
for opinion which we can respect here.

Happy solstice in advance, everyone.

  -Glenn.


Mike Haubrich wrote:
I think that is a great idea!


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*From:* Jeannette Watland <[address removed]>

*To:* [address removed]
*Sent:* Wed, December 16,[masked]:23:08 PM
*Subject:* Re: [mnatheists] A Note Regarding Samuel

All,
Would starting a thread to discuss this on the message board on the Meetup site be alright?  The only reason I don't want this thread to continue is because every time  someone replies it goes to all 627 members.  I had no intention of closing this issue, as I stated I was open to answering any questions.  If the message is satisfactory I can start a discussion when I get home.
 I'm open to any suggestion.
 Regards,
Jeannette Watland-President
Minnesota Atheists

On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Felicia Parsons <[address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>> wrote:

   I apologize, but without an explanation as to why I should, I'm
   not willing to take this discussion private if others are
   interested. I'm sure it will die its own death in fairly short
   order without the need for censorship or intervention.
   Unilaterally proclaiming the discussion closed --- without any
   explanation --- strikes me as an arbitrary and unwarranted
   exercise of power. If there is a better forum for the discussion,
   that could be suggested. If there is a valid reason for
   discontinuing, that could be elaborated. Otherwise, If people want
   to talk I don't see why we shouldn't let them, however silly the
   subject.
       And while I'm glad the Meetup posting issue has been resolved to
   the satisfaction of those in charge, I still don't feel prepared
   to address a potentially volatile situation should Samuel or
   someone like him make a live appearance. I've appended the email I
   received from Samuel in which he threatens (okay, let's say
   /promises) /to show up at the Burnsville Davanni's meeting. I
   appreciate the suggestion to take photos, but no one has told me
   whether there is any sort of policy for how to respond
   should someone show up at a Meetup in an attempt to be disruptive
   or worse. I'm ostensibly in charge of the Burnsville book club
   gathering and I would appreciate some support on this issue, even
   if it is just to be informed that nobody really knows how to deal
   with this sort of thing.
       Thank you!
       Full text of the email follows:
       Does anyone know how many calories are in a slice of pizza?  Man...too
   many to count these days.

   These days...

   How time has flown, how time has passed--how time has worn on my
   saggy ass.
   My Mom used to say:  "Don't live too fast lest life pass you by."
   Little did she know that I would be the one to see her die.

   In the end, does it even matter?  In the end, do I even care?
   Some days it's hard for me to even get up and change my
   streak-soaked underwear.
   My parents call out from the night...oh how they fight, fight,
   fight...

   The memories I suffer--the holocausts of my life.
   How the Jews of my mind have stolen the gold of my strife.
   The dirty, grimy bastards...I'll get it back!

   But there is hope, there is life in my lifeless form.
   He takes the form, he rises the form of JESUS CHRIST.

   THAT'S RIGHT--THAT'S SO VERY RIGHT.

   I'M AN UNDERCOVER DEACON THAT'S LOOKING FOR A RELIGIOUS SQUEEZING.

   I'M GONNA BE THERE AT DAVANNI'S..ORDERING A SLICE OF SALVATION.

   HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL GOD FEARERS THERE.

   But in the mean time...revel in the fact you'll burn in Hell one day.

   GOD BE WITH YOUR SOULLESS SOULS.

   Peace,

   Samuel

   AND ALSO WITH YOU.

   THAT'S CALLED THE LORD'S PRAYRE.

       ----- Original Message -----
       *From:* Jeannette Watland <mailto:[address removed]>
       *To:* [address removed]
       <mailto:[address removed]>
       *Sent:* Wednesday, December 16,[masked]:14 PM
       *Subject:* Re: [mnatheists] A Note Regarding Samuel

       All,
       I have contacted the Meetup Administration. The issue is being
       dealt with, and I have been counseled on how to deal with
       further issues, should they arise.  Please do not respond to
       this email any further.  If you have additional questions or
       concerns please don't hesitate to contact me directly at
       [address removed] <mailto:[address removed]>                Thank you all for your patience and understanding.

               Warmest regards,
       Jeannette Watland-President
       Minnesota Atheists

       .com




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