Kurt do you have any idea what might work? Also if there are
any in the movement who fish, I am looking to get out on the lakes one of
the days. Or if anyone has suggestions where to rent a boat and
The latest news in Az is I found another compassion club that opened.
This one has the look of a small Colorado dispensary. It had not only buds
but hash, soda, candy, cookies, tinctures and other products in a nicely
put together location. Much better done than the others here. Prices
are very high but quality is also high.
We are waiting for the court to state to accept the fact the US court has
said the case is ridiculous and will not be heard.
I realize more
than ever that despite our govt and constitution restricting ones powers, in
Arizona, if you are the governor and dont like a law that the people passed just
file suit and forget about it.
Lets set some time to meet
In a message dated 8/18/2011 5:42:05 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[address removed] writes:
Sounds good Leslie.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:31 PM, Leslie Davis <[address removed]>
I just now got in after nine hours in the TV
I'm gonna eat, get ready for tomorrow, and
respond tomorrow night.
Sent: Tuesday, August 16,[masked]:51 PM
Subject: Targeting anti Cannabis Law Reform candidates in the
I think that the point of identifying elected officials that
are extremely against us is that we can put forth our viable candidates
against them specifically. Also, we obviously can't put our fingers into
every election, but we could identify a few races as being of great
importance. If candidates find out that they will be targeted in the next
election if they are blatently against our cause, they will be less likely
for them to be vehemently against us. This was Leslie Davis' idea though, so
I think that he should be the one defending it. Leslie, if you get this, can
you please elaborate?
Pat, can you please explain the concepts of a
PAC and a super PAC for me?
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Pat <[address removed]>
Without a viable candidate there is no 'vote them out' box on a
ballot. Opposition alone is ineffective in a two-plus party system
(actually 2 majors, a viable and a flock of varying minors) that
lacks a 'none of the above' choice.
We don't have that and our 'lever' is education as opposed to support
of or opposition to specific candidates, which requires that we setup a
PAC to carry out.
On the other hand, Kurt can set up a committee to run on his own
tomorrow, hit the filing deadlines as they come and prepare for a
signature collection.... Which is where party affiliation kicks in with
support proportional to size.
Perhaps we should petition NORML HQ to form a Super PAC for the
Sent from my iPhone.
There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I think that we should have a multitude of candidates and a way to
get the word out to people thinking about running in any party that they
have a support system already set up with MN NORML. Bill is already
running, himself. I say that we find people like Bill and join along
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Randy Quast
Should we first identify a viable, qualified candidate?
I am willing to help organize people to be flies in the
ointment. Oliver Steinberg of the Grassroots Party and Ken Pentel http://www.kenpentel.org/
of the Ecology Democracy
Party suggest that by running as a 3rd party, one can steal votes
from the major parties and that they will then start to change their
own policies when they see that they can gain the 3rd party's voters
by adopting the 3rd party candidate's policies. I tend to agree with
this philosophy. A full court press is in order though, which
includes supporting anyone in any party that is in favor of us. It'd
be helpful to know what sort of things we should offer candidates
that support us. Would our website be helpful?
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 10:14 PM, W. D.
(Bill) Hamm <[address removed]>
Mark Dayton stood and stands solidly against us, I say that
as one who supported him early and turned against him after his
clear public statement hooking it to his chemical recovery, (I
can’t let anyone else have it if I can’t). You need to understand
that those Prison Guards in Minnesota are public employee union,
so are court stenographers and many others. What I am reffering to
is the controling membership of our DFL and why they still find it
too easy to stand against us. Until we can become an anoying
enough fly in the ointment of both parties we will see no change
in our present political environment. That is why I say we must
work to be a strong presents in all viable political spheres, we
need organized effort in their faces politely or otherwise
everywhere we can. We need this power to max next February at
caucus time, we need every seat we can take to county conventions
and the State conventions to prove our determination to get this
done and to have the power to make or break candidate endorsement
which can come down to a very few votes. Yes a very small number
of us 0.25%, or 1 out of 400 people, and we can control all three
major political parties in Minnesota. In more simple numbers, that
is 12,500 across Minnesota out of the roughly 3 Million who
support us. Yes we can.
W. D. (Bill) Hamm
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