announcing a meetup

From: Philip F.
Sent on: Sunday, March 25, 2012 9:57 AM

As an Organizer for another Meetup group, where only the Organizer can create a meetup, I can say there is an option for an Organizer to announce a meeting and I don’t think this requires there to have been three or any number of rsvp’s. The situation may be different if any member can create a meetup, which may be the case with the Go meetup, but someone can check with [address removed] as they are remarkably helpful there.

 

Philip

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Terry Benson
Sent: Sunday, March 25,[masked]:33 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [mostlygo] Maybe we have too many events?

 

The reason you disagree is because the regular places we have aren't ideal. That's a good reason but not really an argument against the general policy. Whether an ad hoc, pay attention to the Meetup emails when there is something better regimen is better than a regular event at a poor location is as good a question as those posed in the middle game. And we do those by feel. I favor regularity in the abstract.

The Dosanko Noodle Shop and Zen Coffee Shop and West 44th St locations of years ago when I ran a club were pretty good for go. The Pastry Shop is lively but crowded. (It may get better in summer when the students thin out.) Fat Cat is loud. Is there a better regular option? For sure I don't know. There may also be those who like loud. (Matt I'm with you on quiet.)  If people really don't like Fat Cat, they'll pay attention to the alternatives. If they don't care enough, they won't. The problem is critical mass and getting that mass to move around. With go players, in my experience, that's very hard to do.

Maybe there are other solutions. And whatever those are will require volunteers who make them happen. It can be fun, but it's work that never gets really easy.

Terry

On 3/24/2012 8:25 PM, Matthew Hershberger wrote:

I have to disagree with Terry on this. Having a consistent place would be great, but only if that place is itself great. Right now, we really don't have any great places to play. Cafes and bars are noisy and/or crowded. I don't want our weekends to be monopolized by Fat Cat, because Fat Cat is just not an ideal place to play Go. It's fun, don't get me wrong, and it's not crowded in our timeframe, but it's very, very loud.

 

If we can't secure an ideal location to play every weekend, then we need to be flexible.

 

I've been planning to host an event at a game-friendly pizza place near Union Square, but I've been waiting for a clear weekend. Now that the weather's warm again, it opens up parks, as well. We don't want to write these things off.

 

People need to use Meetup to see what's going on. I don't think that's a big problem, particularly with email announcements. Use Meetup, and please DO RSVP! Meetup won't even announce an event until 3 people RSVP, which I think has already killed a couple events because they just didn't have enough exposure.

 

Last year, the Mostly Go Club was very successful with rotating, irregular meetings.

 

On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 8:10 PM, Terry Benson <[address removed]> wrote:

Randy

You will find me a one-note person on this issue.

Give people what people want - a reliable place to play. Consistency is what matters. They don't need special events. They don't want to have to keep checking to see if something is happening. It doesn't have to be interesting. It just has to be nice Go at a good level for them.

Is consistency possible? I don't know that. The Go Center had 7 days of go and that clearly stretched the players too thin  and was costly to manage. How many days of go (held at one place or another) can the community support? 3 or 4 is my guess. But you need volunteers (plural) who will take on a day and make sure it happens. We don't have to keep getting bigger. We don't have to build and build. We don't need to keep trying this or that.

We need to set up a base for those we have and then see what is possible.

Terry


On 3/24/2012 1:54 PM, Randy Au wrote:

Looking at the results of the poll that 24 members have voted on,

http://www.meetup.com/mostlygo/polls/500692/

One thing becomes obvious, even more so than how alternating sat/sun fat cat days are a source of confusion. People only want to go to one event a week. Plain and simple.

So now we have this problem of Fat Cat being "the one event in the weekend" unless it is overridden by something else. Which is even more confusing than the admittedly confusing setup we have now.

 

At the same time, we've also seen success from people suggesting things. I love the fact that the High Qi series has started, and want to encourage that kind of grass roots leadership.

I'm not sure what is the best path forward. So I'm going to put forward a crazy strawman idea for you guys to beat up.

 

What if I killed off the current fat cat days altogether.

No events on the weekends would be automatically scheduled. Then, with rare exceptions, we have a first-come first-served model of whoever wants to put an event up can do so.

If there's a weekend empty and someone wants to go to Fat Cat, go right ahead and post it. If the next weekend someone wants to play in a park, post that.  And we have a gentleman's agreement to have 1 event a weekend.

 

Would that be more interesting to you guys?

I need feedback to decide how to move this group forward.

randy





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