Re: [movies-579] Film discussion Meetups?

From: Chris T.
Sent on: Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:29 AM
Based on the responses so far, let's do a trial run.

For now, I’m thinking we’ll do an “Open Discussion” on Monday evening (Nov 11th). We can have some prompts to get discussion going, but, for this first time anyway, I’ll probably *not* insist that we get to them all, nor that we stick to just those (I do want to keep the talk related to film however). The only topic I'll *definitely* want to get to is how the discussion went, whether we want to do it again, and what changes (if any) to the format we want to make.

How does Panera Bread on Goldstar Blvd sound? It’s most convenient for me, but I’m open to other suggestions. If at all possible, I’d like a place where we can easily hold conversation, but gives the option (but not obligation) of getting food/drinks there.

I’ll put up an “Official” event later today, if you’d like to suggest alternatives to my plan above, or some conversation topics, please let me know.

-c.tsai

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Bob9000 wrote:

This sounds like a great idea.. Mixing up the discussions would keep it interesting.. some topics could be meta - such as the separation of author and art, while others could focus on an agreed upon film that we all could watch prior - (I'm assuming that most on this list would subscribe to Netflix and or HuluPlus??).


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Chris Tsai <[address removed]> wrote:
Oh, I would hope that we could have film talk *not* just about recent releases, in fact, I’d prefer it if it didn’t focus on that. For me personally, I really enjoy talking about older stuff and film history, and would rather talk about film in general than just new releases.

I mentioned having logged 150 films so far this year, but less than 1/3 of those were from the past few years, the majority are older. In other words, I wouldn’t people to feel excluded just because they haven’t seen recent films (unless we have a Meetup specifically *for* recent films, like a “best of”).

Some discussions might not even require much of an interest in movies at all. For example, the "separation of author and art” discussion idea, while inspired by recent film news, really doesn’t require any film knowledge at all. To explain that controversy a bit more, Orson Scott Card is the author of the novel Ender’s Game, and is also one of the producers of the film (though I understand in involvement was fairly minimal). The controversy comes in, in that especially in more recent years, Card has been a very vocal and vitriolic opponent of gay marriage. To the point where there have been calls to boycott the film as a response. Note that (as I understand it) there is nothing in the book or film that approaches the topic of homosexuality and/or gay marriage, so this is entirely a response to Card himself, and not the work.

Similarly, Roman Polanski has directed a number of films, like Knife in the Water, Repulsion, Rosemary’s Baby, Chinatown (a personal favorite) among many others that are often considered as some of the best films of all time. However, he is also guilty of the statutory rape of a 13-year old in 1977 (when he was in his 40s).

So, all this to bring us back to the big question: to what degree (if any), do we, or should we allow a filmmaker's (or any artist’s) personal life and/or views affect how we view or appreciate the work they’ve created?

Anyway, I’ll wait for more folks to chime in, but from feedback so far, both on and off list, that this is worthy of a trial run at least.

-c.tsai

On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 at 2:24 PM, aloyah wrote:

Hi Chris,

I love this idea. I just wish that I have been keeping up to date with watching all the new movies. I am sure members would find this a wonderful idea.

Peace,
Aloyah


On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Chris Tsai <[address removed]> wrote:
From the movie Meetups I’ve been to and hosted, it seems we generally meet a little before the film to chit-chat, watch a movie, maybe chat a little more, then go our separate ways, with the large majority of the time dedicated just sitting and watching the movie (which, with 150 films logged so far this year, I obviously don’t really have a problem with). While I certainly enjoy that, I do also sometimes wish to be able to engage in film talk that’s a bit more in-depth than the idle chit-chat before and after each film.

That said, am I alone in this? Or would others be interested in having some more discussion based Meetups at like a coffee shop or something? No movie, but just some dedicated time to have some deeper conversations about film. They could be as a general open discussion with a general goal to stay on the topic of film, or with a little more direction with some sort of a theme and perhaps some prepared questions to direct the discussion. Some examples might be having a end-of-year “best of” type discussion, or something more topical like a roundtable on separation of author and art (inspired by the Ender’s Game/Orson Scott Card controversy).

Perhaps this is something best kept online on places like the group’s message board, so far I don’t see all that much engagement there. I feel that in-person discussion would work better.

What do you all think? If there’s interest, I’ll see about finding a good time/place for a trial run.

-c.tsai





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