you guys mad?  ;-)

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Subject: [BULK] Re: [ruby-110] Programmer needed for exciting new Nashville Startup
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It's also good to remember that Nashville is a small place. No point
in making enemies needlessly.

On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Josh Crews <[address removed]> wrote:
> Thank you Travis.
>
> I specifically invited Benjamin to take his post which I saw hit the
> discussion board, and send it out on the mailing list.  Even his post turns
> out to be insincere (and I don't think it is); it's easy to imagine someone
> sincerely posting exactly his post in the future.
>
> Directing rants and frustrations at a new comer looking for help with a
> Rails project strikes fear into the startup community that people shouldn't
> share their development needs because they'll get laughed at.
>
> There is nothing wrong with seeing if someone local wants to do Rails
> development for equity on a startup and asking for an NDA.
>
> I'm not interested in that offer, many of you aren't interested in that
> offer.  But he might find a developer that he begins a dialog with that make
> a match with.  He discover that Rails is really good for his idea, and he
> needs to learn to code.  He might refine his idea, his business plan,
> improve his funding and want to work with a good developer who helped him
> early on.
>
> This list should be a safe place for non-developers looking for someone
>
> a) in Nashville
> b) who does Ruby on Rails
>
> I feel the same way about job posts by recruiters.  If its a) in Nashville,
> b) for Ruby on Rails its welcome on this list.
>
> Passionate discussions like the one Brian started are welcome too.  Please
> just start a new thread that doesn't mention a specific recent post.
>
> Josh
>
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Travis Roberts wrote:
>
> I wanted to take a moment to remind everyone that, while it's fine to think
> the job posting was pretty ridiculous, it's not really a great idea to be a
> jerk about it.
>
> Remember the golden rule. How would you like to have an entire thread making
> fun of you just because you didn't know the etiquette for a group of people
> you're probably not that familiar with.
>
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> On Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Alex Caudill wrote:
>
> I have no idea what you guys are complaining about. This is one of the
> best project descriptions I've ever read. Based solely on that post, I
> now have the knowledge necessary to build a multilateral high-powered
> thinking machine sufficient to catalyze the singularity.
>
> I want on board, right now.
>
> I'm willing to work for free indefinitely as long as you're willing to
> feed me and provide me a steady supply of marijuana and a place to
> work and sleep. You must make no stipulations with regard to the
> management of my personal space, nor touch any of my stuff when I'm
> not looking. It may seem messy to you, but it is, in fact, a fully
> realized method of organization contingent upon a level of spatial
> awareness that you almost certainly do not possess.
>
> In any case: if my stuff is touched, I will know. Trust me on this.
>
> Furthermore, I require that you bring someone on board to choose my
> outfits for me and array them on my designated bedding area each
> morning while I shower. This is a routine to which I have become
> accustomed and deviation from it would incur a harsh penalty in terms
> of productivity and morale. At first glance, this requirement might
> seem contradictory to my first stipulation (viz. do not touch my
> stuff) but I believe that a willingness to tread this fine line is
> what distinguishes a mediocre employer from a great one.
>
> I must also insist that during the course of normal business hours you
> avoid eye contact with me, as I find it uncomfortable and distracting.
> If you must address me, you must do so via e-mail or instant
> messenger. If I don't respond immediately it's because I'm busy
> distilling your business process into a series of axioms which can be
> integrated in multiple dimensions according to customer needs and
> seismic activity in the Pacific Rim.
>
> In terms of my dietary needs I'm fairly easy to satisfy, but I eat
> around 6,000 calories per day to stay in fighting shape. I maintain a
> protective layer of karate fat around my midriff to prevent my
> internal organs from sustaining damage if I'm ever in a combat
> situation. My one hard and fast rule is that you must not purchase,
> cook, or attempt to serve eggs in my presence. I find embryonic birds
> to be untrustworthy, rude, and disgusting and exposure to such will
> send me into a fit of rage and quite possibly a fugue state. You have
> been warned.
>
> Get in touch and let's arrange a play-date.
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Levi Kennedy <[address removed]> wrote:
>
> I think most of us subscribe to this guys view point on signing NDAs.
>
> https://blog.jpl-c...­
>
> The whole signing an NDA thing is what turned me off the most.
>
> On Thursday, June 21, 2012 at 10:10 AM, Andrew McElroy wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Brian <[address removed]> wrote:
>
>
> I don't mean to come off as a smart ###
>
>
> Whereas, I, on the other hand, am quite intent on being a smart ###. :)
>
>
> the sharpest thing on earth can be one's own tongue :P
>
> You never know what permutation of people/events/places­ will occur.
>
> There is enough buzz words going on in this pitch that I suspect there
> is venture capital afoot.
>
>
>
> -b.
>
>
> BTW, tonight is the rails meet up night. I'd love you see you all drop by.
> https://www.meetup...­
>
> Thanks.
>
> Respectfully,
> Andrew McElroy
>
> We are
>
> looking for ambitious self-starting developers who can take on the project
> in the early stages. We have documented the epics and user stories and are
> prepared to begin iteration 1 of development. As compensation you will
> receive shares of the company with the option to cash in your shares at any
> time after we are funded or you can hang on to your shares and watch them
> grow.
>
>
> Once we have a signed non-disclosure agreement we can give you a complete
> picture of the project. Our founders have successfully started, IPO'd, and
> sold numerous companies in the last 20+ years and they feel this project has
> more potential than previous successes.
>
> Please contact me with any questions along with your contact information.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Ben Nelson
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