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RE: Re: [naturalbuilding-4] Happy New Year from the Chicago Natural Building Meetup!

From: user 4.
Sent on: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 2:01 PM



    I believe the chicken coop was one of the past projects, somewhere on the northside, in which the group participated.  I don't know details, but I remember hearing it was a strawbale structure.  I'm imagining it with a shed roof and some sort of natural plaster (as the group founder is a natural plaster person professionally.)


    The current project that is in the works is a cob wall in Humboldt Park.  The plan so far is a brick base-wall, maybe a few feet high, atop a packed-gravel foundation/drainage-system that is already in place.  That is on hold until the weather allows for the bricks to be laid, i.e., maybe in March.  The bricks, by the way, are salvaged (in the sense that they were collected at a demolition site rather than purchased.) There are nuances not mentioned that you may find appealing, and the plan does seem to evolve and solidify as the work goes on, too. 


    In the meantime, there's a monthly meeting on the 26th of this month (January) and the idea now is to collect phragmightee for thatch.  I believe I overheard the source as being somewhere in southwest Cook County.  I personally look at the trip as being mostly valuable for personal educational purposes, but I do know the group hopes to bank some thatch for a future project and I'm glad to help with that, too.


    There is also an inquiry on our discussion board about a strawbale tool shed for a school.


    Generally any dietary concerns would probably best be mentioned with your r.s.v.p., since it seems there is almost always food involved with the meetup: noting things like vegan, wheat allergies, organic only, etc. in the comments section with the r.s.v.p. would be useful to the snack-provider.  At the Oxford strawbale project there was even a fruit-only eater; he had some sort of g.i. condition. 


    At Oxford, the kitchen served vegetarian with vegan and glutenless options; we ate a lot of millet.  The produce was mostly site-grown or locally bought; and things like goat milk was from the neighbor's goats and the cheese was from the Amish and their cows, I think.  Then, too, in the second week there started the "meat club," in the parking lot, which was reportedly a ad hoc co-op of meat buyers, cookers, and eaters (as the hosts didn't provide that except on pizza night.)  Of the 60-some people who showed up to that project, though, maybe two to five were from the Chicago Natural Building Group, depending on whether kids count here etc.  I believe, too, that the Sundog Ohio event was also vegetarian or vegan; the Chicago group had a presence there, too, of at least a couple people.  Lastly on the subject, several events relating to natural building that I have attended prior to my membership in the group have been vegetarian, too.


    With regard to the group endorsing enslavement, torture, and killing of animals ( or anyone): I am not the group's official spokesperson, but I would confidently guess it does not.  It's also my guess that you would encounter at the group people who share your vision in some way or another, and who would like to meet you, talk with you, and work together with you. 


    Thanks for sharing your ideas and concerns.  Hope to see you soon.



From: [address removed] [[address removed]] on behalf of Patrick McNurlen [[address removed]]
Sent: Monday, January 07,[masked]:10 PM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: Re: [naturalbuilding-4] Happy New Year from the Chicago Natural Building Meetup!

Hi, my name is Patrick. It seems like every message I get from the natural building meetup makes reference to building a "Chicken Coop". Unless this is to mean some sort of cooperative or rescue operation, I'm assuming it to be an enclosure to facilitate the imprisonment of chickens, the stealing of their reproductive secretions and/or preparing them for killing and feeding to humans and other domesticated animals who will proceed to develop diabetes, cardiovascular disease, cancer, autoimmune diseases, etc as a result of consuming captive animals in place of healthy plant foods.
I joined the natural building meetup because I believe in a nonviolent harmonious future free from PVC and other dangerously toxic synthetic materials. I foresee us building vegan ecovillages here in Chicago and elsewhere. To this end, I want to surround myself with the people that share this peaceful vision and avoid connecting with those who aren't interested. In order to determine if this natural building meetup is an appropriate group for me, please let me know whether or not it encourages or otherwise endorses the status-quo treatment of our non-human brothers and sisters as commodities subject to enslavement, torture and killing.
Peace and love,

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