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Re: [progressives] Channeling Jeff Foxworthy

From: bill d.
Sent on: Friday, April 12, 2013 11:40 AM
this guy is a right wing christian masquerading as a libertarian, and whats up with libertarians ? i mean i'm sorry but i respect this site and its people i've met you you are rational i know you dont think i am, your probably right i dont even think i'm rational but i am smart, smart enough to know a bunch of conspiracy peddling anti government pro gun nut bars dont belong here, i support gun laws like they have in canada i support tax laws like they have in sweden why am i inundated with propaganda from some racist anti socialist creep who thinks obama is a traitor or an illegal alien, look this nation is divided i was just talking with a left alliance about this its time to throw down the gauntlet its time to stop being polite to people who threaten to kill our president he is my president and although i have a beef with him on homeland security in most senses i dont think hes  gone far enough! obamacare should be single payer, gun control legisltion should include restrictions or as ban on assault weapons these people are threatening civil war and we remain polite and try to reason with them! why? i wish to protest respectfully i dont feel this sort of reactionary drivel belongs here let him peddle his teabagger nonsense on some right wing site i dont thik it should belong here.. but thats your call.. we dont have to allow it here free speech is only violated when the government takes action this is a private site you can ban me or him or no one , i just wish to object to the enemy posting here and i do consider this sort of ideology the enemy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvBDoNihSJU krugman thinks like us not ron paul no? do i have that wrong?  In The Conscience of a Liberal (2007), by Paul Krugman, p. 267, he states: "I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty. I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I'm proud of it." Liberals often point to the widespread prosperity enjoyed under a mixed economy in the years since World War II.[11][12] They believe liberty exists when access to necessities like health care and economic opportunity are available to all,[13] and they champion the protection of the environment.[14][15] Modern American liberalism is typically associated with the Democratic Party, as modern American conservatism is typically associated with the Republican Party.[16] i dont think we need to listen to people who want to abolish the voting rights act the income tax and the new deal, and child labour laws.. please i think we need to  discuss limiting who we allow into OUR discussions , we dont need to let the enemy into our club house


From: Mark Tiborsky <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Fri, April 12,[masked]:13:16 AM
Subject: Re: [progressives] Channeling Jeff Foxworthy

Hi Steve,

Some of these I can agree to a degree but some look like deceptive canards, for instance the voting one. While different jurisdictions have different requirements for first-time voters, I'm fairly certain that some form of valid identification is required for one to be able to register to vote in the first place. I'm also pretty sure I myself had to present an ID at the polling place itself, at least in the past few elections.

I'd like to address each one, but pinched for time right now- others can address them as well.

I checked out the Freedom Alliance website- I have to say it's hard to take the rest of it seriously when the principles start right off with language about the "Creator". What's up with that?

On Apr 11,[masked]:09 AM, "Tumbleweed Steve" <[address removed]> wrote:
Some thoughts to ponder.
What is going on here anyway?


If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.
~Samuel Adams
NORTHEAST OHIO FREEDOM ALLIANCE 
http://www.meetup.com/NEOhioFreedomAlliance/

 
Channeling Jeff Foxworthy

If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license,
but not for being in the country illegally — you might live in a
nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip
or take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you
might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you have to show identification to board an airplane, cash a
check, buy liquor, or check out a library book, but not to vote
who runs the government — you might live in a nation founded
by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government wants to ban stable, law-abiding citizens from
owning gun magazines with more than ten rounds, but gives
twenty F-16 fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you
might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas,
but not a 24-ounce soda because 24-ounces of a sugary drink
might make you fat — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.

If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl confined to a
wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA, but a woman in
a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions
of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a
nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his
teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class
in grade school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation
founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If children are forcibly removed from parents who discipline them
with spankings, while children of addicts are left in filth- and drug-infested
“homes” — you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more
government intrusion, while not working is rewarded with EBT cards,
WIC checks, Medicaid, subsidized housing, and free cell phones
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide
incentives for not working through 99 weeks of unemployment checks,
without any requirement to prove they sought, but couldn’t find, work
— you might live in a nation founded by geniuses but run by idiots.

If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big
screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, wall-sized plasma do-it-all
TV’s and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he
defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation founded by geniuses
but run by idiots.

If being stripped of the ability to defend yourself makes you more “safe”
according to the government — you might live in a nation founded by
geniuses but run by idiots.
 


Follow the Constitution!
It was put in place for a reason.
To protect personal liberty in a free republic.

 














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