Re: [atheists-767] Santa effect

From: Rusty
Sent on: Saturday, December 18, 2010 8:34 AM
Children should be taught to behave for self respect and achievement and  to 
gain the respect and admiration of others not forced to obey an  others wishes 
through fear of punishment from a non existent being  whether it be Santa or 
God. What happens when they stop believing in  Santa or God; do they no longer 
have any reason for appropriate behavior. That may be why the world is in the 
ethical state it is in now; they don't literally believe in or fear any all 
seeing authority. Forced compliance through fear is an act of terrorism.


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From: Michael Infinity <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Fri, December 17,[masked]:48:05 PM
Subject: Re: [atheists-767] Santa effect

My daughter is 4, and she wholeheartedly believes in santa. I had an opportunity 
to witness the function of the concept.  Santa Clause is a concept introduced to 
a young mind in order to direct and influence the child to develop a 
self-conscience-ness­ in regards to personal accountability for action. One day 
my daughter was behaving badly, I witnessed the day care teacher and my babymama 
team up on her reminding her that santa is watching and he knows who is naughty 
or nice. The Idea of her possibly not getting a christmas present did indeed 
persuade her to change her "uncivil" acts upon that day. Besides, its only a 
children's story, are you gonna take the Leprechaun from St. Patty's day, and 
the cupid from St. Valentines day too? Leave St. Nicholas alone then, Santa is 
fun!  I'm sure a child would question the ability of one man to deliver presents 
to good little kids all over the world in night, this is good exercise for the 
young mind and an introduction to the paradox of logical thought concerning 
reality. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Rusty <[address removed]>
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec[masked]:13:01 
To: <[address removed]>
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Subject: [atheists-767] Santa effect

The devastating effect of religious thinking. We are brainwashed to believe 
without evidence in Santa & God from infancy by the people we love and trust . 
When 

we get older and start to use empirical logic and reason; (How does Santa 
deliver
around the world in one night? how does he get in a house without a chimney? how 


do his rain dear fly? How does God create things from nothing or do miracles? )
The answer; Magic. Instilling in us a distrust for our reasoning ability. When 
the older kids try to convince us with logic,reason and even evidence that Santa 


doesn't exist, we ignore them in favor for what we choose to believe. "It is a 
sin to listen to Atheists or even question the word of God."

As a result we are programed to perceive reality as we choose to rather than the 


way it is, 
We distrust our own reasoning ability and ignore contradictory evidence if need 
be  

We disregard the objective logical rational advice of other well intentioned 
people.
We place our hopes in luck or some external intervention.

As adults who no longer believe in Santa and maybe not even God; we create 
problems that need not exist and are incapable of resolving real problems many 
times because of this puerile conditioning.



      



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