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Re: [atheists-767] Santa effect

From: Tom H.
Sent on: Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:42 AM
Advise tell kid "arent u proud of yourself..."...


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On Dec 18, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Rusty <[address removed]> wrote:

> Children should be taught to behave for self respect and achievement and  to 
> gain the respect and admiration of others not forced to obey an  others wishes 
> through fear of punishment from a non existent being  whether it be Santa or 
> God. What happens when they stop believing in  Santa or God; do they no longer 
> have any reason for appropriate behavior. That may be why the world is in the 
> ethical state it is in now; they don't literally believe in or fear any all 
> seeing authority. Forced compliance through fear is an act of terrorism.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Michael Infinity <[address removed]>
> To: [address removed]
> Sent: Fri, December 17,[masked]:48:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [atheists-767] Santa effect
> 
> My daughter is 4, and she wholeheartedly believes in santa. I had an opportunity 
> to witness the function of the concept.  Santa Clause is a concept introduced to 
> a young mind in order to direct and influence the child to develop a 
> self-conscience-ness­ in regards to personal accountability for action. One day 
> my daughter was behaving badly, I witnessed the day care teacher and my babymama 
> team up on her reminding her that santa is watching and he knows who is naughty 
> or nice. The Idea of her possibly not getting a christmas present did indeed 
> persuade her to change her "uncivil" acts upon that day. Besides, its only a 
> children's story, are you gonna take the Leprechaun from St. Patty's day, and 
> the cupid from St. Valentines day too? Leave St. Nicholas alone then, Santa is 
> fun!  I'm sure a child would question the ability of one man to deliver presents 
> to good little kids all over the world in night, this is good exercise for the 
> young mind and an introduction to the paradox of logical thought concerning 
> reality. 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rusty <[address removed]>
> Sender: [address removed]
> Date: Thu, 16 Dec[masked]:13:01 
> To: <[address removed]>
> Reply-To: [address removed]
> Subject: [atheists-767] Santa effect
> 
> The devastating effect of religious thinking. We are brainwashed to believe 
> without evidence in Santa & God from infancy by the people we love and trust . 
> When 
> 
> we get older and start to use empirical logic and reason; (How does Santa 
> deliver
> around the world in one night? how does he get in a house without a chimney? how 
> 
> 
> do his rain dear fly? How does God create things from nothing or do miracles? )
> The answer; Magic. Instilling in us a distrust for our reasoning ability. When 
> the older kids try to convince us with logic,reason and even evidence that Santa 
> 
> 
> doesn't exist, we ignore them in favor for what we choose to believe. "It is a 
> sin to listen to Atheists or even question the word of God."
> 
> As a result we are programed to perceive reality as we choose to rather than the 
> 
> 
> way it is, 
> We distrust our own reasoning ability and ignore contradictory evidence if need 
> be  
> 
> We disregard the objective logical rational advice of other well intentioned 
> people.
> We place our hopes in luck or some external intervention.
> 
> As adults who no longer believe in Santa and maybe not even God; we create 
> problems that need not exist and are incapable of resolving real problems many 
> times because of this puerile conditioning.
> 
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