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Re: Re: [atheists-767] Santa effect

From: kurtis
Sent on: Sunday, December 19, 2010 11:31 AM
you dont think he knows if your naughty or nice ?? and which is witch ? and the fear of a lump of coal is all they'? need , so eye'd like to thank???? 'them'?????? other peoples kids.???? we is all genioussis, ignorant, bias, predjudice, and bad spellers,
yes gifts are just like praying for grace, to help win the football game, as god was deeming it ,
fools, on the hills, the power of coal is our main power source and largest back up , so leave a karat for the easter bunny,
or a colored egg, and just let your kids find jesus on their own/?? if u know what i mean ,?? its a planet ... love kurtis b.

On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM, monica <[address removed]> wrote:
"That may be why the world is in the
ethical state it is in now; they don't literally believe in or fear any all
seeing authority."
huh?? Are you saying that if children believe or fear an all seeing authority, they will have better ethics?

"Forced compliance through fear is an act of terrorism."
Children are not forced to believe in santa... when did parents start forcing santa on kids? Santa does not punish sinners-unlike gods, who could be described as terrorists.? Santa is not taught in schools.

I do think it is wrong to deceive children, so I see your point, Rusty.? However, I also believe that it is in the child's benefit to not be overly truthful.? If concepts like death, sex, war, etc are questioned by young children, they should certainly be discussed, but not necessarily in full detail.? That's not lying or deceptive; that's just sparing them possibly traumatizing details that they might not comprehend fully anyway.?
Stories like santa claus and tooth fairies are bonding games between parent and child.
Now, I suppose that it is possible for some parents to take the santa myth too far and insist that he's going to do something horrible- but that would be a parenting issue and not a santa issue.
I think when children are old enough to understand that rich kids get way, way better presents that poorer kids, that's when the time is appropriate to explain.? At that age, they should be able to understand that ethical choices can be made without expecting compensation at xmas or in the afterlife- or whatever.? Until then, Santa makes kids happy and that's what every parent wants: happy children.

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