July 4th Klamath Falls to Eugene via Crater Lake (Oregon)

Approximate route: http://goo.gl/maps/yD7A6

Wednesday 7/3: 10pm Amtrak red-eye from Emeryville

Thursday 7/4: 8am arrive Klamath Falls, ride ~60 miles to Crater Lake. No room at the inn, so we will have to camp at Mazama Campground. There will be mosquitoes :-(

Friday 7/5: ride ~55 miles to Umpqua's Last Resort. http://www.golastresort.com/CamperCabins.html

Saturday 7/6: ride ~ 50 miles to Dorena (Shoreview RV/Campground)

Sunday 7/7: final stretch to Eugene (~30 miles, mostly downhill wheee!). 5pm Amtrak overnighter from Eugene to Emeryville (or wherever you want to get off).

Monday 7/8: train arrives ~8:30am Emeryville.

Amtrak schedule: http://www.amtrak.com/ccurl/608/261/Coast-Starlight-Schedule-011413.pdf - tickets are ~$200 plus $200 for half of a shared roomette (if you need/want a bed). You are responsible for getting your own train tickets! I can't front that much cash. I advise you to get them soon.

Accommodation: camping where no beds are available. I will put up a Google doc soon to coordinate this.

This will be CHALLENGING. Long days and long/steep climbs. Touring/road bikes highly recommended!

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  • Kohei S.

    Hi, I am Kohei Suzuki from Japan. It is my first time to join the bike tour, but I would like to join your great journey!

    Could I share a tent at the camping sites? I have just spent for 3weeks in San Francisco so I do not have special equipment for camping but I will work hard for the team!

    July 2, 2013

    • Frankie M

      Kohei - if this is your first ever bike tour and you are not accustomed to consecutive days of long rides loaded with gear (camping/food/clothing/w­ater), I highly recommend you join one of the other rides posted on Meetup which are shorter, less remote, closer to home and more suited to beginner bike tourists. Each participant is independently responsible for their own bike/fitness level/speed/safety. This will be a challenging ride, and therefore I would not feel it fair to the group or to you if you came. There are plenty of other excursions posted that are shorter yet just as fun, and unless indicated otherwise, first-timers are always welcome. I hope to meet you on a future ride!

      1 · July 3, 2013

  • Mik K.

    My wrist still too messed up for long rides it turns out

    June 22, 2013

    • Kent

      sorry to hear that, Mik. Get well soon!

      July 2, 2013

  • Mike

    Does anyone know if the roomette ticket covers both beds in the room? For example, the Eugene --> Emeryville ticket is showing up as 1 AAA Adult = $64.80 + 1 Superliner Roomette = $299. Would a second person just have to buy the $64.80 ticket and then be able to share the roomette with me?

    June 9, 2013

    • Mike

      Sounds good. Thanks for getting the details from Amtrak!

      June 9, 2013

    • bliss88

      Mike, so are you on the train and on this trip for sure now?

      July 2, 2013

  • bliss88

    Hi all, can you PLEASE verify ASAP (i.e. by Tuesday 7/2, 11AM) if you are going on this ride? So far I have reserved campsites that max out at 8 people so it's VIP to know if there are > 8 people. This will help Frankie as well when booking for night #1.

    Here is a googledoc to enter your contact info and coordinate tent-sharing and any other shared camping equipment. Might be helpful to include the info for the train you'll be boarding on Wed night. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmXeq_B3Ly07dERNSGtIdVZNekpqRE5WSXNTX1h6UXc#gid=1

    Accommodations:
    Night #1 (Near Crater Lake) Thurs: Frankie is booking
    Night #2 (Umpqua National Forest) Fri: I have paid for it. $35 for 4 tents + $5 per additional tent
    Night #3 (Lane County Park - Baker Bay) Sat: I have also paid for this site, $30 for up to 8 people.
    http://reservations.lanecounty.org

    July 1, 2013

    • Daniel M.

      I am going! I am mechanically inclined and can help pull pedals and assist with boxing.

      July 2, 2013

    • Mike

      I'll be going. Just put my info into the spreadsheet.

      July 2, 2013

  • bliss88

    GUYS: ARRIVE TO STATION EARLY i.e. 8PM at the LATEST to have time to box your bike!!!

    July 2, 2013

  • Jim M.

    Here's the latest Amtrak checked bicycle rules.

    The box you buy from them is huge.Doesn't require much bike dis-assembly. A bike shop box is quite a bit smaller.

    The fee for checking a bike as baggage is $10.00. This is subject to change without notice.

    Check your bicycle at the station at least an hour before departure.
    Bicycles/bicycle trailers may be checked in a bicycle container for $10.00, in lieu of a piece of baggage. Bicycle boxes are sold at most staffed locations for $15.00 per box.
    Bicycles must be partially disassembled in order to fit in an Amtrak bicycle box. Loosen and turn the handlebars sideways, and remove the pedals. Amtrak does not supply tools for disassembling.
    It may be helpful to disassemble and reassemble your bike before your trip to avoid any surprises. Some parts, especially pedals, may be especially difficult to remove.
    Attach your name and address to the box.

    1 · June 27, 2013

    • Elaine A.

      Dear Elaine Astrue,

      Thank you for contacting us.

      The comments we receive from customers help us to evaluate our services and make adjustments where warranted. Your suggestions will be noted for management review and entered into our permanent records. Amtrak's Operations staff reviews the comments, opinions, and suggestions from our customers, and this feedback is taken into consideration for future updates. To address your specific concerns, we are unable to provide any time frames for your suggestion or comment. However, please be assured that we are constantly working to improve our service.

      Thank you again for taking the time to write to us. We look forward to serving you aboard Amtrak.

      Sincerely,

      Maureen
      Amtrak Customer Service

      July 2, 2013

    • Elaine A.

      Here's the URL for giving Amtrak your feedback: http://www.amtrak.com...­

      July 2, 2013

  • Chris L.

    I rode 20 miles from Medford to my camp in Ashland today and the heat is something. My advice is to be well hydrated, well fed, well rested and ready to ride when you get to K Falls. I would like it if you all could de-train like the Possee that chased down Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. I know there are bikes to assemble but I promise to take pictures if you can manage it.

    2 · July 2, 2013

  • Chris L.

    I learned a lot about Greyhound and bike packaging at 1am this morning in Sacramento, there phone reps and website are not very decisive on the subject. Greyhound does require bikes to be boxed before throwing them under the bus in the storage compartment. The boxes are smaller than Amtraks and I had to remove my rear wheel and seat as well, but boxes are only $6 vs $25 for Amtrak, so if you are near a Greyhound station and traveling by Amtrak, try to get the boxes at Greyhound and save $19 each. For the 10 riders on this trip that would pay camping fees and maybe some wine :-).

    July 2, 2013

  • eva

    Happy 4th and have a fun trip!!

    July 2, 2013

  • bliss88

    PLEASE RESPOND: will any kind soul RSVPd on this trip who is mechanically inclined AND boarding Emeryville station bring tools to remove pedals and turn in handlebars? And will you be able to meet folks who need use of tools and possibly help boxing bikes early at EMY station (i.e. meet between 7:30 and 8pm? train leaves 10pm).

    July 1, 2013

  • bliss88

    hi all, an update here:
    1. turns out Frankie and I did NOT get extra beds
    2. there are still seats left from Emeryville to Klamath Falls but get your ticket ASAP, which will cost $220 RT depending on availability
    3. according to the Amtrak agent I spoke w/, normal seats (i.e. not getting a bed/cabin) sounds comfy enough that you don't need to spend an extra $325 RT (the cost roughly of a shared berth/cabin RT) if you are the type that can sleep anywhere
    4. if you are female and really want a bed, you can buy mine (sharing it w/ Frankie) but again, it'll cost you $325 RT. you need to contact me ASAP blissethsy AT g m a i l dot com

    June 27, 2013

    • bliss88

      5. we will need to box our bikes and remove pedals and turn in handlebars; boxes from amtrak cost $25 each way. i've contacted a local bike store (Wrench Sciences) to see if they have extra bike boxes for free. If someone wants to find a Eugene bike shop and do similarly (i.e. ask for bike boxes that we'll pick up Sunday 7/7) that would be great!
      6. who on the ride can bring tools/help people w/ boxing their bikes?

      June 27, 2013

    • Chris L.

      I have spent some time on Amtrak and I recommend the sleeping in a reserved seat approach, I tried a sleeper once, my wife at the time and I found it very cramped and uncomfortable. Not worth the expense in my humble opinion.

      June 27, 2013

  • bliss88

    btw, Frankie and I are departing on the 10:04pm train 7/3 Thurs night from Emeryville to KF and for the return, boarding the 5:10pm from Eugene 7/7 Sunday night bound for Emeryville

    June 27, 2013

  • bliss88

    Hey Mike and Mik! Frankie and I bought a total of 2 rooms, each with 2 beds, by accident. So if you two want to share that room, then all you have to do is buy your train tickets. Please contact us so we can tell you the amount of $ to paypal us to cover the room. Btw, it'll be you two guys sharing the roomette (not sharing w/ us gals ;)

    June 9, 2013

    • Mike

      Boo, not sharing with the girls : ( Haha, sure sound good. Mik I hope you don't snore buddy! Bliss are you the one selling the ticket? If so what's your email address. (Or feel free to shoot one my way... it's [masked])

      June 17, 2013

  • Elaine A.

    I am touring the week before instead. Wishing you guys a great trip!

    June 9, 2013

    • Elaine A.

      Ely, I'm doing a different route. Lightweight credit card tour, south and east from Ashland. 100 miles/day. Stop in Alturas to help support the GRR. Then head for the Tahoe basin, staying at higher elevations. You are welcome to come! Email me directly if interested.

      June 16, 2013

  • bliss88

    hey there folks interested in this trip! heads-up, if you want to take the train up, do please book your ticket asap. And Mik and ? who wanted the spare 2 beds that Frankie and I bought, if you are a 100% yes on this trip, just let us know :) Finally, talk to Jim/Daphne if you might have time to go up earlier (they might be driving up).

    June 15, 2013

  • Mik K.

    Hey, how serious is the 8-people limit? I'd like to be #9

    June 9, 2013

    • Frankie M

      It's not a serious limit - the ideal group size would be 6-8. Basically, if someone wants to come, is capable of ~60 miles riding each day fully-loaded with significant elevation gain and has their transportation booked and camping gear all set, then there's no problem.

      June 9, 2013

    • Frankie M

      Also, I don't know how to change it :-/ Tom set it up for me.

      June 9, 2013

  • Andy L.

    Frankie, this trip sounds awesome! I'll be in western Canada until July 6th :( So sorry to miss it.

    Everyone should keep in mind that you have to box your bike on the Coast Starlight. They sell boxes at both stations, and you can also box your own for the trip up to save a little money! Be at both stations early enough to box them and check them as luggage.

    May 19, 2013

    • Kent

      Here is what Amtrak says. Looks like I'll just buy the box there at the station. Hopefully my tools 'n skills will be eNUFF to STUFF.

      June 7, 2013

    • Kent

      Bicycles/bicycle trailers may be checked in a bicycle container for $10, in lieu of a piece of baggage. Bicycle boxes are sold at most staffed locations for $15 per box. Customers may supply their own bicycle container.
      Folding bicycles under the dimensions of 34" x 15" x 48"/860 x 380 x 1120 mm will be allowed onboard all trains in lieu of a piece of baggage. They must be considered a true folding bicycle.

      June 7, 2013

  • Chris L.

    Sounds like a fun trip, I am thinking of leaving Sunday (6/30) night and riding over to Ashland for a day of the Shakesphere Festival if anybody wants to extend the fun.

    May 11, 2013

  • Elaine A.

    Tentatively in...
    Frankie, any possibility for credit card-ing this tour? I know Odell Lake has a lodge. What are the stopping points?

    1 · April 30, 2013

    • Frankie M

      We haven't finalized the stops or lodging yet, hang tight. You are welcome to send me suggestions though! Jim has my email address, would prefer not to post. Camping gives us more autonomy, is cheaper and less likely to be booked up already. Of course, it's harder having to carry the gear, but it's easier to adjust the ride details to less gear than to more gear.

      April 30, 2013

    • Elaine A.

      Jim and I did something like this last summer as part of SuperTour. That model would look like Diamond Lake, Odell Lake, Eugene. Both Diamond and Odell Lakes have accommodation. But you're right, there are a lot more campgrounds than there are motels. Jim might have a way to route around Chemult...

      April 30, 2013

  • Jean

    Unfortunately I'll be flying out on Mon for Idaho Falls.

    April 30, 2013

  • Jean

    wow Frankie, way to go big on your first tour as leader!

    1 · April 28, 2013

    • Frankie M

      Blisseth is co-organizing, and Jim's in, so perhaps not as impressive! Hope you can come.

      April 29, 2013

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