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Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 9:12 PM
RE: Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 9:11 PM
Re: Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 8:49 PM
You sort of said it, Hugh.. - Betty Apr 12, 2012 8:25 PM
RE: Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Chandiran H. Apr 12, 2012 8:22 PM
RE: Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 8:09 PM
Re: Re: Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - " libertarian, tea party political agenda with thinly disguised pseudo-science masquerading as serious fact with an added false humanistic bent. Pure, intellectual Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 7:58 PM
Re: Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 7:53 PM
North York Free Thought RE: Free Thought [physicsnorthyork] - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 6:27 PM
Re: Re: Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hello Steve, Very definite words what did you based on? A tea party? Most of them do not know how to read, elitist propaganda, the program attacks elitists, Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 6:01 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Thank you Stan, I appreciate that. Anna Anna H. Apr 12, 2012 5:54 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hello Ann, Who said people interested in physics were just nerds, we are also "bloodthirsty" no enemy taken alive warriors. Welcome to the group. Stan Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 5:15 PM
Re: Re: Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - I should also mention that the real purpose of this film is to promote a  libertarian, tea party political agenda with thinly disguised pseudo-science masquerading as serious fact with an added false humanistic bent. Pure, intellectually bankrupt, elitist Steven F. Apr 12, 2012 5:14 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hello Hugh, If I understand you right. You see conspiracy behind every tree. Didn't you start this conversation on anti conspiracy platform? Basically what I understand from your las Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 5:11 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Anna H. Apr 12, 2012 4:32 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 4:28 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - I just started looking at the Video and find the basis of t Chandiran H. Apr 12, 2012 4:19 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) -  David Apr 12, 2012 2:54 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available monique Apr 12, 2012 2:38 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available monique Apr 12, 2012 2:32 PM
Free Thought RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 2:30 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available George V. Apr 12, 2012 1:45 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 1:17 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Chandiran H. Apr 12, 2012 1:12 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - David, you are talking religious concepts. "my way is right, who cares about your ideas, they are wrong" . The beauty is that most of the science is wrong but we are learning. Can you imagine if we accepted Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 12:15 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - I just have to say that I think we idealize science just a touch too much. Yes I'm all for logic, rational thought, creative thought, skeptical thought and facts. Let's be honest and point out that many scientists require funding - usually by corporati Paula Apr 12, 2012 12:11 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hello Monique, Welcome to the physics quarrel, shame you are on opposite side, I need friends. I am sorry you did not see the video but I can tell you at least this. For most what wa Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 12:04 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available David Apr 12, 2012 12:02 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available monique Apr 12, 2012 11:09 AM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Preview not available Hari K. Apr 12, 2012 10:50 AM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - thanks for this betty. it is really interesting! :-) cheers, kristina On 11 April[masked]:28, Betty < [address removed] > wrote: kristina Apr 12, 2012 3:43 AM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hi Hugh, I have read the Wikipedia description of pseudoscience. Then most of the quantum mechanics, especially string theory falls into that category. I like a other description, an Stan R. Apr 12, 2012 12:59 AM
[physicsnorthyork] Science (and what it's not) - Hugh Apr 12, 2012 12:14 AM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Thanks Hari, very well said. Shame I did not come with this articulate response but I am working on it. Stan Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 11:21 PM, Hari Kuma Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 11:45 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Hugh Apr 11, 2012 11:30 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Interesting discussion. Though, in all honesty I did not read the entire meandering conversation, just skimmed through quickly. I watched this 'Thrive' video too, soon after it was posted on youtube. Despite its slickness, I was not impressed Hari K. Apr 11, 2012 11:06 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Hi Dave, Thanks for your email. I know the video tried to cover many areas. The donation section I missed but maybe because I watch it on iPad and it does not allow flush pop ups. (t Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 9:23 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Dude, inductance! Over the air, not from the air. On[masked], at 8:32 PM, Stan Racansky < [address removed] > wrote: Dave N. Apr 11, 2012 9:14 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Stan, I'm sorry you feel my observation Dave N. Apr 11, 2012 8:46 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hello Hugh, Why the personal attack? But let's go right to the point - Tesla did not understand? Just now, 100 years later we are starting to understand his genius and are Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 8:32 PM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hugh Apr 11, 2012 7:54 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - I just want to add Ted.com connection http://www.ted.com/talks/eric_­giler_d Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 7:25 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hello Steven, I am a big fun of Mr. Tesla, I believe he is bigger genius then Mr. Einstein, because of his applied science, not just theory ( I am a Jew by the way, probably I will b Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 7:09 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Hello Dave and rest of the gang. Dave, please tell me where you see a "polished ignorance". I am sorry, but your answer ricks of arrogant ignorance. I have also watched the video, ma Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 6:44 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hi guys, Interesting point of you (Hugh), just propaganda?, I did not finish watching the movie in full but I will comment at least portion of it. No question the documentary encompa Stan R. Apr 11, 2012 4:07 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Don't be so hard on yourself, Betty. ;) I just finished watching the video and it outlines the abundance of well polished ignorance we've come to expect from the 'conspirotainment' industry. I'm trying Dave N. Apr 11, 2012 3:40 PM
how about .Seth Lloyd on Quantum Life? - Betty Apr 11, 2012 3:28 PM
Re: Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - This kind of right wing agenda, new age, unscientific crap has no place being promoted in a serious physics group. Right from the start, I was suspicious of its slick graphics and unsubstantiated claims. Gambles beatific manner is off-putting to anyone wh Steven F. Apr 11, 2012 2:00 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Hugh Apr 11, 2012 1:49 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Here's some more from Foster Gamble Hugh Apr 10, 2012 11:21 PM
Re: [physicsnorthyork] Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Funny how naive propaganda like that still f Hugh Apr 10, 2012 11:04 PM
Fwd: THRIVE -documentary film ( important )! - Begin forwarded message: From: Goran Mitic < [address removed] > Date: 10 Apri Betty Apr 10, 2012 10:35 PM
NASA views our perpetual ocean - Awesome visualizations! http://www.sciencedaily.com/re­leases/2012/04/120409204414.ht­m?utm_source=feedburner&utm_me­dium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3­A+sciencedaily%2Fearth_climate­%2Foceanography+%28ScienceDail­y%3A+Earth+%26+Climate+News+--­+Oceanography%29 Betty Apr 10, 2012 1:59 PM
Fwd: Singularities - Hey Physics Enthusiasts.. We have a dialogue going on below..and invite your comments. Hope to see you at our physics meeting this Friday! Betty Betty Apr 9, 2012 4:18 PM
Physicists hunt for dark forces : Nature News & Comment - Theorists had hoped that the Large Hadron Collider — the world’s highest-energy (and most expensive) particle accelerator at CERN, Europe’s high-energy physics lab near Geneva, Switzerland — would open the door to new concepts such as supersymmetr Betty Apr 5, 2012 10:00 AM
Hello from Betty - Hi all..Here's some news of interest to both our PEs and CCTrs. http://press.web.cern.ch/press­/PressReleases/Releases2012/PR­07.12E.html Btw. Looking forward to seeing you at our special event this Thursday night! In case you haven't RSVPd yet, th Betty Apr 3, 2012 1:00 AM
RE: [physicsnorthyork] Global Warming -- Fact or Fiction - Presentation From 2 Experts On Climate Change! - It would be good if you can also bring in someone who Neale Mar 20, 2012 10:02 AM
Global Warming -- Fact or Fiction - Presentation From 2 Experts On Climate Change! - Hey Physics Enthusiasts! Those of you interested in the latest developments in climate change, do RSVP for this feature event on April 5th. Details here: http://www.meetup.com/CLIMATE-­CHANGE-Toronto/events/50919312­/ Hope to see you there! M Betty Mar 20, 2012 9:50 AM
NASA sees second biggest flare of the solar cycle - Hey Physics Enthusiasts..FYI.. http://www.sciencedaily.com/re­leases/2012/03/120307185105.ht­m?utm_source=feedburner&utm_me­dium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3­A+sciencedaily%2Fspace_time%2F­solar_flare+%28ScienceDaily%3A­+Space+%26+Time+News+--+Solar+­Flare%29 Betty Mar 8, 2012 8:34 AM
Topics for future Physics Meetings. What are your preferences? - The North York Physics Meetup (61) (North York, ON) - Meetup - Please indicate your preference for topics to explore at future Physics Meetings. Let us know if you have other physics related topics of interest to add to this poll. Thanks! (Rate each option on a scale of 1-10, where 10 is best) Here's the link.. Betty Mar 7, 2012 12:17 PM
A New Poll. Topics for Future Physics Meetings. Please Vote Now! - Please indicate your preferences for topics to explore at future Physics Meetings. Let us know if you have other physics related topics of interest to add to this poll. Thanks! (Rate each option on a scale of 1-10, where 10 is best) Thanks Betty Mar 7, 2012 11:58 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - Ok..I'll start a new one..stay tuned! Betty Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 5:26 PM, Wayne McCracken < wayne@mccrackenonl Betty Mar 1, 2012 8:15 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - Hi Betty, I don't see any opportunity to take   the poll, only past results.  Am I missing something? Wayne On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:1 Wayne M. Mar 1, 2012 5:26 PM
RE: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - Doug Mar 1, 2012 2:57 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - David Mar 1, 2012 11:51 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - Betty Mar 1, 2012 10:18 AM
RE: [Physics-61] Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - I think this stuff is so esoteric it borders on philosophy. Neale Feb 28, 2012 2:45 PM
Space-Time Ideas Presentation link - Betty Feb 28, 2012 11:04 AM
Space-Time Ideas for our March 9th Physics Meeting - For your review, here is the presentation "Space-Time Ideas" comprising contributions from some of our members and compiled by Vic P. for discussion at our Physics meeting on Space, being held on March 9th. Some parts of this presentation may change. Betty Feb 28, 2012 10:57 AM
Fwd: Why are Dark Matter and Dark Energy some of today's cosmic mysteries? - FYI..Originally, Lawrence Krauss was to be the presenter.. Betty Feb 18, 2012 12:39 PM
Call to Action..We invite Members to contribute to our March Space Lecture Project: What is Space? - The North York Physics Meetup (61) (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hey Physics Enthusiasts! For more info, go to this link: http://www.meetup.com/physics-­61/messages/boards/thread/2043­3952 Betty Sent from my iPad Betty Feb 13, 2012 2:26 AM
Re: [Physics-61] orders of magnitude!! - Thanks, Gerardo On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Gerardo < [address removed] > wrote: Mohsen Feb 12, 2012 1:29 PM
orders of magnitude!! - Gerardo Feb 10, 2012 11:44 PM
High Bozzo results - Hi everyone there Gerardo Feb 6, 2012 10:05 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - ...perhaps there is some sort of conspiracy going on? On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:48 PM, David < [address removed] > wrote: Francisco Feb 3, 2012 2:04 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - David Feb 3, 2012 1:48 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - p.s. I have no idea how a Climate Change thread ended up on the Physics list... On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Francisco < [address removed] > wrote: Francisco Feb 3, 2012 12:22 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - Yes, real science shows that we are on our way to an ice age with all the average global surface air temperature changes that show a general trend of growth compared to the [masked] base period l Francisco Feb 3, 2012 12:18 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} and of course sfgate is a reputable source Hugh Feb 3, 2012 12:29 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - Here's and excellent article if you think that we don't need to do anything about global warming. http://blog.sfgate.com/sheilig­/2012/02/01/climate-sci Lee N. Feb 2, 2012 9:39 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and thevery early universe - David Feb 1, 2012 8:25 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and thevery early universe - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Not only was there nothing 'outside' into wh Hugh Jan 31, 2012 7:59 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - David Jan 31, 2012 7:23 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - David Jan 31, 2012 11:55 AM
RE: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Here is something to you all who have been in this dialogue Chandiran H. Jan 31, 2012 8:25 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Oh, mistake. It was Larry who wrote the point of something not Dave. Sorry to both of you. Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 7:45 AM, Dave Noel < Stan R. Jan 31, 2012 8:02 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Dave, Excellent hypothesis but I have a question. Into what the space time is created? Even if it is something different from our concepts of time and space, still it is something Stan R. Jan 31, 2012 8:00 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - I like the idea of spin networks! I must do a little more reading on this. Dave Noel Cell:[masked] Home:[masked] On[masked], at 11:31 PM, Larry Smi Dave N. Jan 31, 2012 7:44 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Larry S. Jan 30, 2012 11:31 PM
Singapore ..Proactive about Climate Change - FYI for CCTrs and NYPG members who are interested in climate change Singapore raises sea defences against tide of climate change | Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article­/2012/01/27/uk-climate-singapo­re-idUSLNE80Q00J20120127 Betty Sent from my Betty Jan 28, 2012 11:38 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and thevery early universe - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Here's an easy introduction to the Hugh Jan 24, 2012 11:20 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hear is my big bang theory!!! Maybe the big bang is not an one time event, what if there are two universe existing at the same time and one is growing bigger and bigger and the other one is getting smaller and smaller all the time. What I mean by ge Justin D. Jan 24, 2012 10:47 PM
To Physics Enthusiasts who are Interested in Climate Change.. - Betty Jan 24, 2012 9:58 PM
Re: GREAT SCIENCE DEBATE was RE: cataclysmnicists vs. denialists [Physics-61] was Whence cometh the terms? - At 12:17 PM 1/24/2012, you wrote: >DAN ..... Thank you. Let's get moving and create a public discourse on this. >Do we have any people who speak on either >side of this issue (these issues)? I am sure they can be found. For the denialists, let Dan K. Jan 24, 2012 8:25 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - So, does that mean the age of the "visible" universe is 13.9 billion years, and there's a possibility of a bunch of stuff over the edge of the 'waterfall' of light speed that we will never know about? And if Dave N. Jan 24, 2012 4:32 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Oh boy, here comes another of my long emails. Let's see how short I can make it. (I'm not Larry S. Jan 24, 2012 2:08 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hello Wayne, Nothing is very difficult word to comprehend in the content of space. If the universe has end, the nothing has a start there. If the universe is expanding into nothing t Stan R. Jan 24, 2012 1:35 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Actually I was wondering if someone (e.g. you) would comment on that.  I've read that before but haven't explored the reasoning.  I will this time.  I decided to ignore this in my description as I wanted to simplify things.   Wayne M. Jan 24, 2012 1:10 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Good comments, as usual, Wayne. But you made one (quite common) mistake. Larry S. Jan 24, 2012 12:57 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - My "simplified" cut at it . . . The physics that we experience in our universe (i.e. matter/energy/forces, dimensions & time) is a result of the physics that was created at the Big Bang (BB) 13.7 billion years ago.  At tha Wayne M. Jan 24, 2012 12:39 PM

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