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GREAT SCIENCE DEBATE was RE: cataclysmnicists vs. denialists [Physics-61] was Whence cometh the terms? - Joel but you can call me J. Jan 24, 2012 12:17 PM
RE: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - The universe is being made in a large bathtub. Joel but you can call me J. Jan 24, 2012 12:02 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Francisco Jan 24, 2012 8:19 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Good morning guys and girls, Now you know my sleeping patterns, it's almost 4 am and I am 63. Hell, I need a good 20 years old to wear me out, that way I can wake up at more godly ho Stan R. Jan 24, 2012 4:37 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Betty Jan 24, 2012 12:55 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Francisco Jan 24, 2012 12:23 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Larry S. Jan 23, 2012 11:26 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Justin D. Jan 23, 2012 10:47 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Dave N. Jan 23, 2012 10:41 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Preview not available Francisco Jan 23, 2012 9:11 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hugh brings it on home, for the win! Good show old boy. Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 7:20 PM, Hugh < [address removed] > wrote: Dave N. Jan 23, 2012 8:26 PM
RE: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hugh Jan 23, 2012 7:20 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Stan, I am explaining a universe based on the data we have observed up to this point (and how I understand it). These observations are finite and what is outside the observable universe is something that one could only speculate until we find wa Francisco Jan 23, 2012 7:19 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Stan, Larry just did a great job addressing that question. There are a bunch of hypothesis' but nothing concrete, because we cannot measure what is not there. I like the 4 dimensi Dave N. Jan 23, 2012 6:34 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Francesco, You are explaining what is a galaxy and maybe even an universe, as a finite concept. But I am interested what is outside of universe. What is that big nothing the Stan R. Jan 23, 2012 6:15 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Nobody knows for sure, but the consensus seems to be leaning towards the concept that space isn't the simple concept we've assumed all along. Don't confuse the fact that we can mathematically describe space as a grid that goes on forever, with a po Larry S. Jan 23, 2012 4:41 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Stan, This is my understanding of the expanding universe thing: Let us assume that energy and matter ("stuff") has already formed and is packed in such a tiny dot in space. Having that much &q Francisco Jan 23, 2012 3:29 PM
ALMOST-X FLARE AND CME UPDATE - RADIATION STORM IN PROGRESS: Solar protons accelerated by this morning's M9-class solar flare are st Betty Jan 23, 2012 3:15 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Hi Betty, Still I have difficulty to understand into what the universe had been, is, and will be expanding? What space or something is there, for universe to expand to? Anybody has some explanation? I am asking about it since I been 4 years old, no one Stan R. Jan 23, 2012 1:08 PM
Scientists hope to understand the Big Bang and the very early universe - Planck space telescope warms up as planned. Less than half a million years after the universe was created 13.7 billion years ago, the initial fireball cooled to temperatures of about 4,000 degrees Celsius (about 7,200 degrees Fahrenheit), releasing bri Betty Jan 23, 2012 12:13 PM
3D Sun news: CME Impact - Untitled Document Betty Jan 23, 2012 11:01 AM
RE: [Physics-61] David Archers Course - Whence cometh the terms? - I just made them up, Joe. I didn't even know how to spell the second one. I just guessed. Well, I think we should have a "d & c" debate sometime soon. We can break the debate up into several categories. 1. preventing the cataclysm. 2. adjustment t Dan K. Jan 21, 2012 1:49 AM
RE: [Physics-61] David Archers Course - Whence cometh the terms? - Anyone know? Joel but you can call me J. Jan 20, 2012 5:53 PM
Re: [Physics-61] David Archers Course - Open Climate 101. - I don't know, Joe..have you watched the lectures? Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 5:41 PM, Joel but you can call me JOE < joel Betty Jan 20, 2012 5:44 PM
RE: [Physics-61] David Archers Course - Open Climate 101. - Joel but you can call me J. Jan 20, 2012 5:40 PM
David Archers Course - Open Climate 101. - Thank you Lee..this course is a must see, everyone! Betty Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 8:47 AM, Lee Norton < leeenor Betty Jan 20, 2012 2:39 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - Hi Everyone Lee N. Jan 20, 2012 8:47 AM
RE: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - Maybe mass extinction does not depend on our support. Alice Jan 20, 2012 1:23 AM
RE: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - I wanted to attend the meetup group for a while but was una Alice Jan 20, 2012 1:04 AM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - In a very dour and dry way, I would like to invite all participants to remove all humour from their dispatches, for the following reasons: 1. Email is a pretty lousy way to communicate humour. The protocol I always follow is that whenever I make a Dan K. Jan 20, 2012 12:56 AM
SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids - FYI.. http://spaceweather.com/ NASA's twin STEREO spacecraft recorded an impressive CME emerging from the b Betty Jan 19, 2012 3:00 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - At 03:20 PM 1/18/2012, Hugh wrote: >People are one part of nature and the ecosystem a tiny and insignificant part. >Here's something to help visualise that: > > http://youtu.be/Y9oKAgii1-8 This video indicates 15 parts p Dan K. Jan 18, 2012 6:34 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - Whales could be a key component in efforts to stabilize our climate. The carbon spike matches the decline of whale populations. It turns out that much of the carbon spike could come from the oceans. It centuries past vast armies of whales cruised the Dan K. Jan 18, 2012 6:34 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - Hi Hugh, I suspect that your tongue is firmly in your cheek, but I'll take the bait anyways :)  I'll respond to this: Andy Jan 18, 2012 6:16 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} People are one part of nature and the ecosys Hugh Jan 18, 2012 3:20 PM
Re: [Physics-61] Global Warming Saved the Whales. - Hello Hugh, Very good evolutionary point but we are also talking how much our friendly neighborhood homo sapiens are helping the process. The nature is one thing, human stupidly othe Stan R. Jan 18, 2012 10:30 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Andrei: Livi Hugh Jan 18, 2012 10:29 AM
Global Warming Saved the Whales. - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Whales used to be little hooved hyenas (meso Hugh Jan 18, 2012 10:11 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Mohsen The hockey stick contraversy, which I alluded to can be found in Wikopedia:  " In 2004  George V. Jan 16, 2012 7:38 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi george,   I am still waiting for the list of scientific references which are behind your strong opinions.   Mohsen On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, George Volgyesi Mohsen Jan 16, 2012 7:03 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Mohsen Which claims, in particular, would you like me to reference? All I have are opinions based on reading many resources. The information available to anyone living today is enormous. Where was Google when I was young and even more curious than George V. Jan 16, 2012 6:16 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Dave You are right about my throwaway remark about the desirability of a longer growing season. There are so many variables involved in Earth Science, that we can not even estimate the effect a change in one variable may cause. Like with any medici George V. Jan 16, 2012 6:07 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Paula Thanks for the sceptical science blog and the hilarious Carlin video. Both of these postings indicate just how little we know about the Earth and other parts of the Universe. I am still trying to get my head around Bell's Theorem and dark George V. Jan 16, 2012 5:56 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi, George,   What are the references for your claims. Do you have any paper to substantiate your believes?   Mohsen On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:39 PM, George Volgyesi Mohsen Jan 16, 2012 5:43 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Stan I am all for living a healthy life without pollution. I would start by phasing out CF bulbs, the enormous usage of which is a ticking time-bomb. LED lighting technology is getting better all the time and prices are coming down. We do what we c George V. Jan 16, 2012 5:27 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hear hear! I'm all for a debate. Let's record it and share it --- the varying opinions are fascinating!   I am with the person who said "I prefer to live in an unpolluted environment" ... I'd much rather Kath Jan 16, 2012 5:19 PM
RE: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Sorry for jumping in, but I just wanted to express my admir Alex Jan 16, 2012 4:36 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hello all, In regards to the global warming on mars, here was an interesting post about it http://www.skepticalscience.co­m/global-warming-on-mars.htm Apparently mars Paula Jan 16, 2012 4:23 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi George, No question, we know nothing, but still I prefer to live healthy life without pollution. We are not able yet to play Gods with nature, but I am sure, we are old enough to Stan R. Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Let's face it, ladies and gentlemen, we know diddly-squat about the causes of climate change, and the more we listen to pseudo-scientists like Al Gore, the more we realize that this whole issue became a political propaganda tool. We need to take a dee George V. Jan 16, 2012 3:39 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Andrei said "...Solar activity is increasing..." Jason Jan 16, 2012 2:53 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hold on George, Don't makes us innocent and throw everything on dinosaurs and Egyptians. They are dead and can't defend them self. To my best knowledge no dinosaur ever suggested to burn their remains, and poor Egyptians? What has bronze age farming t Stan R. Jan 16, 2012 2:04 PM
RE: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Stan is right of course. Gaia takes no notice if the CO2 captured in a previous cycle is released now faster than our current technology can cope for graceful human comfort. And nobody can deny that the ultimate agent of climate change is the Sun. Hugh Jan 16, 2012 10:31 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Having a bad case of ADD, I am not much for live debate, so I must decline. However, I think the exchange of ideas is healthy, especially if reason and objectivity are adhered to. I would, however love to see you debate someone with an opposing point of v George V. Jan 16, 2012 9:06 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hi Dan and George, I had mentioned few times at this website that farm methane release as a larger culprit in climate change then industrial CO2. George added previous "civilizations" methane output. I have a question. Does "Mother Nature" really cares Stan R. Jan 16, 2012 5:22 AM
RE: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - user 9. Jan 16, 2012 4:58 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Personally I agree with George, but I guess it depends where you get your information from. Mainstream media is only the side of the story that most people hear. Solar activity is increasing and Andrei N. Jan 16, 2012 2:24 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Thanks for your opinion George. I propose that we have a formal debate in front of an audience. Heck, we may even televise it. Certainly we can record it on YouTube and webcast it. This would be a very interesting way to get the message out. I am c Dan K. Jan 16, 2012 12:22 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - George, that's kind of a short sighted view IMHO. Longer growing seasons sound good at first, until you real Dave N. Jan 16, 2012 12:18 AM
RE: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Jeffrey s. Jan 15, 2012 6:54 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Personally I do not share in this apocaliptic scenario. There is nothing in recent scientific literature (aside from the faked hockey-stick) that would indicate catachlismic climate changes especially those due to human activity. I even think (horrors) th George V. Jan 15, 2012 2:38 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Dear Hugh, The question is not "are you for or against climate change." The climate is always changing. The question is "are you for rapid climate change that is unprecedented in the Earth's geological history." Another way of saying it is "are Dan K. Jan 15, 2012 11:31 AM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - For me, the group is about exploring the reality. It's Betty Jan 14, 2012 12:26 PM
Re: [Physics-61] CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - .sw_message P{margin:0px;padding:0px;} .sw_message {FONT-SIZE: 12pt;FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma,Arial,­Helvetica,sans-serif;backgroun­d:white;} Is the group for or against climate c Hugh Jan 14, 2012 1:37 AM
CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Good to see y'all out Friday night! For those of you who asked..here's the link to our climate change group..do join us. Next meeting. Feb 2nd.. http://www.meetup.com/CLIMATE-­CHANGE-Toronto/ Betty and Mohsen Betty Jan 14, 2012 12:55 AM
Fwd: Is it true that no two snowflakes are exactly alike? - FYI all...if you want tickets for this event, move fast at 9am next Monday - January 16th. Betty Begin forwarded message: Betty Jan 13, 2012 11:52 PM
A Sobering Climate Chat with Robert Socolow - FYI from Betty to .CCTrs and Physics Enthusiasts.. Betty Jan 6, 2012 4:09 PM
Re: [Physics-61] A computational puzzle for the New Year.. - No. That's the Meaning of Life.. Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 10:46 PM, Martin < [address removed] > wrote: Betty Jan 3, 2012 11:06 PM
Re: [Physics-61] A computational puzzle for the New Year.. - Isn't it 42? Martin Jan 3, 2012 10:45 PM
A computational puzzle for the New Year.. - No answer yet! http://claesjohnsonmathscience­.wordpress.com/2011/12/23/dark­-energy-and-the-european-crisi­s/ Betty Sent from my iPad Betty Jan 3, 2012 1:45 PM
Re: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Carmen Jan 1, 2012 2:32 PM
RE: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Wishing you all a Very Happy New Year. Mano Philips --- On Sat, 12/31/11, Chandiran Homer <chomer_va Mano P. Jan 1, 2012 10:27 AM
Re: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - It's almost time to celebrate the happiest of new year's, until the next one.... Greetings and good wishes to all. Steve Fistell  On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Chandiran Homer < Steven F. Dec 31, 2011 8:56 PM
RE: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Wish you all a very happy and prosperous NEW year Chandiran H. Dec 31, 2011 8:27 PM
RE: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Mohammad I. Dec 31, 2011 7:17 PM
RE: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Parviz Dec 31, 2011 6:07 PM
RE: [Physics-61] The Year 2012 - Wish you all a Happy and a prosperous New Year Harsha M. Dec 31, 2011 1:16 PM
The Year 2012 - Happy New year to all. Wish you a year full of accomplishments. Mohsen Mohsen Dec 31, 2011 10:29 AM
RE: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - Hi, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Liliana -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: December[masked]:23 PM To: [address removed] Subject: [Physi Liliana Dec 25, 2011 8:44 PM
Re: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - The Higgs Boson has been found, but its exact location is uncertain Merry Christmas and Happy Channukah to all George On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Allistair < George V. Dec 25, 2011 3:41 PM
RE: [Physics-61] Happy Hollidays to all members of Physics Club - Parviz Dec 25, 2011 2:44 PM
RE: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - I wish you all happy holidays and may God send each of you a higgs boson at ~ 125 GeV. Parviz -----Original Message----- From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Betty Sent: December[masked]:23 PM To: Parviz Dec 25, 2011 2:43 PM
RE: Happy Hollidays to all and watch your iPads - STAN -- Be careful sh Joel but you can call me J. Dec 25, 2011 1:47 PM
Re: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - Allistair Dec 25, 2011 12:42 PM
RE: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - Compliments of the Season and a Very Happy New Year to all Chandiran H. Dec 25, 2011 7:52 AM
Happy Hollidays to all members of Physics Club - Scientists are wrong! The heaven exists, just look at that pretty angel holding my photo. Happy Holliday to all, and best in the next year. Stan R. Dec 25, 2011 4:21 AM
Re: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - Thanks Betty. All the best for this holiday season and 2012 as well. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty" To: Sent: Saturday, December 24,[masked]:23 PM Subject: [Physics-61] So this is C David Dec 25, 2011 12:24 AM
Re: [Physics-61] So this is Christmas! - thank you, betty let's wait and see if santa brings a higgs boson to our next meeting in january Carmen Dec 24, 2011 10:25 PM
So this is Christmas! - Hey Physics Enthusiasts..Hope you're having a wonderful holiday, and see you in the New Year! Cheers! Betty Betty Dec 24, 2011 10:23 PM
The HIGGS..What's IT All About? - Happy New Year, everyone, and we hope to see you in the New Year! Betty and Mohsen To let you know about our next meeting..For more details, see the full listing: http://w Betty Dec 20, 2011 10:51 PM
Re: Not great, but the most technical layperson's explanation of today's Higgs announcement - Thanks, Larry! Betty Sent from my iPad On[masked], at 12:47 PM, Larry Smith wrote: > http://blogs.discovermagazine.­com/badastronomy/2011/12/13/ma­ss-effect-maybe-higgs-maybe-no­t/ Betty Dec 13, 2011 1:09 PM
Fwd: What the Higgs is going on at the LHC? - FYI, Physics Enthusiasts! Betty Betty Dec 12, 2011 2:30 PM
About climate change and cold fusion - Betty Dec 6, 2011 4:14 PM
link test Physics - Preview not available Betty Nov 29, 2011 3:38 PM
RE: [Physics-61] Fwd: The Strangest Man in Modern Physics -  The Strangest Man in Modern Physics user 2. Nov 25, 2011 3:41 PM
Fwd: The Strangest Man in Modern Physics - To get tickets for these lectures you have to MOVE FAST! Tickets will be available at 9:00 am Monday morning, November 28th..and traditionally they are Betty Nov 25, 2011 3:06 PM
Fwd: LHC may have found something - "Most probably, theorists say, the proper Betty Nov 17, 2011 4:09 PM
...Climate Change/Global Warming..Who Cares? Cassandra Cares..Do You? - CLIMATE CHANGE Toronto (North York, ON) - Meetup - Hey Physics Enthusiasts.. Question.. Why don't people engage in climate chang Betty Nov 16, 2011 11:49 PM
SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids - Betty Nov 14, 2011 10:14 AM
SpaceWeather.com -- News and information about meteor showers, solar flares, auroras, and near-Earth asteroids - FYI and hope to see you Thursday night! http://spaceweather.com/ Betty Nov 7, 2011 12:17 PM

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