Re: [newtech-1] Prototyping Tools and Methods

From: Avi D.
Sent on: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:55 PM
Not sorry at all. Thank you for sharing.

I have parallels for free (after rebates) from about a year ago, been watching VMWare for Mac carefully...

Vicky Halasohoris wrote:
the life of my Mac -narrated by me :-)
DOA: March 2007 -never used a Mac before so, probably my naivety to the  Mac world could also be the culprit in my strong feelings against Parallels.

1) got my Mac in virgin form: [Apple 13.3" MacBook Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz Black 1GB/160GB]
2) added Bootcamp to Mac (what a pain that was -had to leave my Mac to go play in the Windows world-very sad, indeed)
3) killed Bootcamp and Mac HD all-together -reinstall Tiger & bought and installed Parallels
4) so, then installed: Axure, via Vista, via Parallels. it made my system crash (grey box of death) but, not initially and not right away (I think adding software and utilizing HD allocated might also play a roll utilizing Parallels better) but, being a virgin with a Mac -it was not easy for me to fix/tweak so easily each such occurrence would occur.
***it gets better -I assure you.
5) so, then upgraded to 2GB from the 1GB. should have stopped here -but I still thought my system was struggling -the fan made all sorts of noises.
6) then I decided to upgrade to Leopard (oh I was in for a ride). then Axure was crashing in Vista via Parallels in my Mac Leapard.
7) killed computer -reformatted and started on a blank slate -installed: Tiger on Mac and then installed Axure on Vista via Parallels. well, now my iMail files/folders could not be read from Leopard to Tiger?! Lost all my emails! 
8) so killed computer again -and on a clean slate went back to Tiger -and utilized back up email files from my old back up of Tiger and Parallels and Vista and Axure.  we were finally a happy family or happy as we could be.
***so one day while talking to the Axure rep in sunny Santiago, CA., he told me that he uses VMWare Fusion and it works much better then Parallels -oh really, I said.  
8) killed Parallels, installed VMWare Fusion and went back to Leopard in Mac and WOW -very nice indeed!
9) then I was done testing Axure -moved onto iRise.  well folks, iRise does not work in Visita?! so, I had to buy XP -cuz at the time I was in NY and had to scramble fast and all my free copies were in DC. but, no worries cuz VMWare Fusion can simply add another Virtual Machine in its Virtual Machine Library -were I set up 60GB of HD for my VM. and maxed it to have of the hard drive for actual usage for XP and Vista to run and play along nicely... 
10) then I tried installing MS Office 2007 on Vista & XP yesterday (I did not succeed cuz I could not find the key) but either way my system got very slow and all of my MS Office for Mac application would not launch? very strange indeed?!
11) so, today I killed Vista, killed Axure -I've kept XP -installed MS Office 2007 (found the key) -and all good for now except I can't figure out why my MS Office CD for Mac is not allowing the applications to launch in my Mac.  I've re-installed it several time thus far. but nadda. I deleted the old files and the folders that MS Office for Mac creates... oh well. I have MS Office 2007 on XP now -so, I'll be working there for now...and hopefully over the weekend, I'll fix that problem too.

I'm not a jealous girl -but I just did not like how Parallels could get its hooks inside my Mac!
I hope your not sorry you asked.  ;-)

V





On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Avi Deitcher wrote:

Vicky,

Clearly, you have very strong feelings about VMWare vs. Parallels. Would you care to share why?

(No, I don't work for either).
Avi

Vicky Halasohoris wrote:
Axure via Vista via Parrallels via Mac -VERY BAD! Kill me now if I ever go back!
Axure via XP (or Vista if you must) via VMWare Fusion (instead of Parrallels!) via Mac -WOW -I LOVE MY VIRTUAL VMWare Fusion! I HATE Parrallels!! I HATE Vista!!!

V

On Nov 29, 2007, at 3:32 PM, Jon Gilkison wrote:

Just to add to the discussion.

For us, an entirely mac shop:

- Axure via Parallels

Jon.

On Nov 29, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Gregory Narain wrote:

I can point to our work in terms of developing wireframes... the general stew is:

for the Mac folks.

1) OmniGraffle
2) Skitch (ask me for an invite, it rules)
3) Illustrator

for the PC folks.

1) Photoshop
2) Illustrator
3) Visio


Greg



On 11/29/07, florian fangohr <[address removed] > wrote:
I certainly hope they didn't use iRise to prototype their own site? I
looked around for ages trying to find information on system
requirements and pricing to no avail.
After some research I discovered that the entire business model seems
to be built on dealing with huge (crusty) agencies that cater to the
fortune 100 of crusty companies. Prices for the prototyping tool
ranging from $50k to $250k.

A quarter of a million dollars later, you can start building a
prototype, that you can hand over to the mysterious java guys to
"compile"?

That's is so backwards, it's not even funny any more.

FF





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