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Re: [newtech-1] $2,000 in free software from Microsoft, just for being a college student.

From: Finnbar
Sent on: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:41 PM
Um, I know we touched on the religious stuff but I don't think we were really discussing the quality of .NET, rather the market success. History is full of crap products that succeed and great ones that fail. As an outsider, my impression was that C# had learned from and improved on Java, as a language. The peers I mention who are no longer using .NET didn't badmouth the technology - just suggested that the demand has shrunk. The worst criticism I heard, from an uber-Unix geek, was that .NET server-side had some "rough edges" that were inevitable given it's age (this is three years ago.)

.NET is losing market share, MSFT have reason to be frightened. Last week I interviewed at a .NET shop that is branching into Java because it can't find the quality C# programmers in the marketplace. It sounded as if they will move to a mixed, then a most, and eventually an all Java platform all for sound business reasons, not technical reasons. Sure the maturity of Java means there are more high end profiling, refactoring and debugging tools available, but that was an added value, not a driver.

For me, as a coder, whilst I'd love to learn .NET I wouldn't take a role on a new .NET project because I would question the vision of whoever chose that platform. My theory is that a  company that can make pragmatic, risk averse technical decisions regardless of fashion is one that is more likely to succeed. .NET no longer sounds pragmatic.

On Feb 21, 2008, at 3:06 PM, Robert wrote:

bottomline you all... is on the client's all the same CSS/JS/HTML

On the backend side.. whatever works for the development team that used whatever foundation...

bottomline.. if it delivers what the enduser needs/wants.. it doesn't really matter.

you like using it.. then keep using it.

There really isn't this is better or that is better..

It's all in the eyes of the beholder....

you like PERL.. use it... no harm.. no foul... .. the early web was built on its back.

you like .NET / C# then use it, I'm sure in the hands of a true believer.. s/he will produce.   ie.. PlentyofFish

I mean no malice to any platform or anyone's capability to produce miracles with it...

again.. all in the eyes (hands) of the beholder....



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