Re: [newtech-1] voice/flights

From: Baba
Sent on: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:06 PM
I am not taking any sides or push any products I like etc. I have no bias for or against MSFT or Apple or Linux or any other technology.
What I stated was that for all the support people claim to get with the Dells of the world they still run their own support groups as well, so either the support they get from the Dells of the world is not adequate or proper. FOr most of the Dells of the world Enterprises such as Federal, State and Local Governments are the biggest clienst salso truefor the MSFT's of the world. Yet all these agencies have huge IT staffs outsourced or in-house supposedly providing support and help so why double dip is the question I was raising.
I am not into bashing nor interested or have the time for such, I have to stay objective as far as possible. My fiduciary responsibility is not to the person who signs my check for the work I do but to the shareholders of the Company I provide services to and thats all there is to it. Use MSFT products and if it does the job great, if Apple does the job thats fine or if Linux is the solution great.  When you get too closely vested to a technology or service offering then you tend to become short sighted and unable to see what is right for the job. People tend defend their positions and for every point there is a counter point and thats what I see in this dialog and there wont be an end really. As long as you can deliver what you are charged with in the most cost effective way and sustain it over the course of the life of that service then thats all the client needs.
Enjoy your weekend.


On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Victor Shamanovsky <[address removed]> wrote:
Countless enterprises that I have been familiar with uses Dell's next day, on-site repair service.
I can write up an essay on how and why enterprise's successfully use support from companies like Dell, HP, Sun, Microsoft, but there is no time. What IS your proposition for enterprise hardware and software wise? White-label boxes running Linux? Apple?

For windows realm, Windows Media Encoder is a great tool for the job. Camtasia is next but at an asking price of $299

I don't plug Microsoft, I promote products that I like. It so happens that I do enjoy many from Microsoft's camp.

For instances, I am trying to enjoy Safari (3.0.4 -[masked]) , but the darn thing struggles with gmail leaking memory into hundreds of megabytes and barely if at all works with SharePoint. To be fair it is in beta (and has been for a very long time now) but so was the Firefox  beta 2 and now 3 that I use and while it had\has problems they are not as bad as Safari. So, where is Apple's interoperability? From my friends who are adamant apple owners I hear reluctant admittance that apple is barely if at all backwards compatible with it's own stuff. Care to explain that? Apple doesn't care. Microsoft has to.

As for iChat, my equivalent is Windows Live Messenger with SharedView. Michael, it is easy to buy a wintel laptop with an integrated camera these days.

This is getting tiresome.  Like Robert wrote, use what you like to use and easy up on bashing. Keep in mind that for every Asif in the world there is Victor. For every "Microsoft sucks" there is "Apple sucks". Microsoft is evil, Google (who is about to own your medical records)  is evil and so on..





On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Baba <[address removed]> wrote:
so another MSFT product  placement from you Victor. I like your passionate use of all things MSFT. For me it isn't about a particular technology or vendor really, it is all about does it do the job, does it do it reliably, does one get value from it and does it hold up to the expectations.
On many of those things i.e Ability to Execute and Expected Value so far MSFT seems to come up short on many occasions. They have a good size market share and that is what they have been holding on to or trying to hold on it. Will their business model sustain itself I am not sure.
I may digress a bit in saying that People in companies buy Dell Products for their supposedly great support yet almost all Enterprises have a Huge IT department with a break fix team  that seems to be doing the bulk of the fixes, yet these enterprises all have long term support contracts with Dell and one always wonders.
Similarly the reason for the MSFT deployments has always been that they are a known source and they provide support, yet I always wonder  if they provide support why have large IT support teams in-house.
Anyway I  have to remain objective for my clients and so I never like to be promoting one or the other technology. For me it is about getting the business sat hand done and doing it in the best possible way given whatever variables are involved for the job.
As Micheal says there other options to a MSFT solution and maybe relevant to some folks.


On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:42 PM, Victor Shamanovsky <[address removed]> wrote:
Best presentations I have seen had only videos and images and very little content otherwise. Successful presenter engages the audience with his\her oratory skills. Mr. Jobs is known to practice his keynotes several hours each day for a week leading up to his dog and a pony show. (and as history points out that slick presentation can't help overhyped stock, Michael. 117 and a shoe keeps dropping, sorry mate, as I wrote to you in private, hope you are not loosing your shirt)

If you need to provide information (for folks who are reviewing the presentation after the fact) , add it to the notes section. Even better record your presentation with something like Windows Media Encoder. It is free with genuine MS OS :) http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5691BA02-E496-465A-BBA9-B2F1182CDF24&displaylang=en

Speaking of Windows Media Encoder, is anyone here familiar with a free tool that offers similar functionality on your other platforms of choice? Not making an example, just want to know.

Word to the wise. Find a way to capture your entire presentation including audio and video not just the slide deck. WME is free and Video cameras are dirt cheap.



On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Rob Freeborn <[address removed]> wrote:
After watching this "debate" bounce back and forth I decided to toss my two cents in and throw out some resources for the group.
 
First, here's a great blog post from Brad Feld re: .ppt and, of potential interest to this group, what he as a VC is looking for in a prezo.  Make sure to scroll down to at least one comment - "Rich - March 19" and one of his points that I think truly crystallizes my feelings "blaming PowerPoint for a bad presentation is like blaming the pan for crap food." - truer words were never spoken and the .ppt bashers out there should take it to heart because you can generate crap just as well in Flash, Keynote, etc. etc.
 
What's critical is applying proven methodogies and then practicing your pitch - something else hardly mentioned in this thread. As far as designing a good .ppt prezo, take a look at Gene Zelazny and his book "Say it with Charts" if you want to go old school or potentially "Say it with Presentations". Gene comes from McKinsey as their Director of Visual Communications and regardless of what Tufte says - if McKinsey thinks .ppt's an effective way to communicate an idea (when done correctly!!!!) then I would tend to at least give some credence to using it.
 
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