Re: [newtech-1] Ecommerce option-Magento, OpenCart etc

From: Jayden L.
Sent on: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 12:28 PM
Thank you again Tony. I will re-consider this issue very carefully and seriously. There is free trial option at Amazon for a year. It might be a good start point, but I still need to do some research in my own.

Jayden
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Here's the thing, with Rackspace you cannot modify their kernel if you want to use software that helps with security. Michael McNeill can explain this better than I. So, if you put yourself on Rackspace today and then have to move to Amazon, you're going to have a pain point once you migrate, because the configurations are different. I would seriously analyze this choice and understand the issues. You do get some support with Amazon, it's just not 24-hour support.

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Jayden Lee <[address removed]> wrote:
Yea, anthony. Thanks a lot! I also observed the conversation about rackspace/amazon carefully. Somehow I am into Amazon more, but I am concerning that we don't have any dedicated personnel to manage hosting maintenance at this point. For Rackspace, it has some add-on feature to manage the hosting from them, so I thought it has much lower maintenance. I will dig into Amazon more anyway.

Jayden
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We're actually going through the same issue right now: Rackspace vs. Amazon Cloud.

One of my team members is looking at costs and the ability to scale quickly. With Rackspace, it's a bit cheaper to have a production and dev environment and bring up instances when you need them, but Amazon's ability to scale quickly is advantageous.

For the entrepreneur who hasn't yet launched their project into beta, spending $230 a month as opposed to $150 a month is certainly a tough decision. It's $80 difference. However, if you pay up front with Amazon, I think you can beat that price. I think it's around $420 and $100 or so a month if you pay upfront.

So, we're going to let the entrepreneur decide. I am well aware that what sucks is paying $230 a month for a site that isn't live and making you money yet. But, you can't build big shit and expect it to cost $10 a month. It's called an "investment." You have to invest in it and expect to lose money before you make money. That's just the way it is. I spend $1,200 a year on my hosting costs for VPS at MediaTemple. I guess I make it back, but I've been in business for a while now to cover that cost. I had to spend before I made it back. It's what you can digest.

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On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Jayden Lee <[address removed]> wrote:
Tony,

Thanks a lot. We probably build it on Rackspace in the beginning. Amazon is a bit too much at this stage in terms of managing resource and cost.

Happy holidays!

Jayden
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Jayden,
 
I would really stay away from shared hosting for any serious project. With shared, you are going to run into issues increasing your php memory limit or modifying your server in any way. I would really reconsider and spend a few more dollars and move into the VPS world.
 
Tony Zeoli

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:37 PM, Jayden Lee <[address removed]> wrote:
Thanks all!!

Susan, does it run on shared hosting? Only concern is it is a bit slower than OpenCart, but I found lots of adds on and themes(premium extra chargre, but it seems worth it) I can prob integrates through blog and events add ons.


J.
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I've used prestashop as a solution for an organization selling a few items and even tickets. Prestashop's development was started in Europe and so most of the shipping and payment modules were focused for that market a few versions back.  I understand they have since upgraded and have much better US shipping and payment options ( i.e. Authorize.net, USPS.com etc..)

I was able to redesign the basic theme totally to mimic the current organization's site. The theme templating system Smarty is pretty easy to pick up and customize. Styling/ other functionality was easy enough with CSS, HTML  & Javascript. 

I hear they have added a few features to allow for more development and integration with other CMS' I presume, although I haven't heard the latest on wordpress integration.  Their English forums have a lot of involvement so they might be working on this.

Hope this helps, have a great holiday
Susan

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jayden Lee <[address removed]> wrote:
Anybody has an experience on PrestoShop? Looks great but lack of themes in comparison to OpenCart or others.

Magento needs higher requirements for the server, so it will be not suitable for startup site of mine at this point.

J.
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I've been working a lot with Magento lately.  Working on three concurrent Magento installs and an extension right now.

Magento is configurable to the point where can be a hinderance.  But I do believe it's the best E-Commerce platform on the web right now.

I'm not sure what you mean by "heavy".  But Magento has a lot of builtin features for performance tuning.  There are lots of very large stores running Magento.

You can integrate Magento with WordPress if you need too.

Best regards,
Kervin


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Subject: [newtech-1] Ecommerce option-Magento, OpenCart etc

Hello techies,

Anybody has an experience to bilild ecommece base on both Magento(community edition) or OpenCart? Upon my researach on the web, opencart is the best option for me so far in terms of maintenence, flexiblitity etc. It will be B2B orientied, and will include blog and event page. Magento is good, but the system seems a bit heavy for the long run.

Please share if you have some words. Buddypress is good option, but I need more advanced function for the product directory.

J.
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