Re: [newtech-1] first videos of iPhone (plagiarizer) - Android. full screen

From: user 7.
Sent on: Monday, June 2, 2008 12:22 PM
I'm new to this mailing list, so I have a feeling I might just be stepping in the middle of the old, never-ending Apple vs. Microsoft flamewar.

But here's why I had to chime in: Even if you love Apple and the iPhone, wouldn't you be happy about the increased competition from another player? At the very least, it would help drive down iPhone prices and force their hand on opening up to other networks. Plus, as always, competition drives innovation.

Hoping that Apple sues another company really has no benefit to you the consumer.

Ok, flame on.

Best,

Dan

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On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Leroy Stav <[address removed]> wrote:

They really didn't need to partner with anyone in order to "make this happen"

They chose to purely out of greed.  They went to Verizon first with the same outrageous offer they gave to AT&T Wireless and Verizon laughed them off.

If they would have waited another few months and gave the world a phone that could be used on any network they would have made a lot more money.  Heck, as it is half of the iPhones sold aren't sold through AT&T.  Think about how many *more* they would sell if it wasn't necessary to risk bricking the phone if you want to use it with TMobile.

All I'm saying is that Apple made a mistake, but its not their fault.  US cell phone culture is backwards.  Do you think Nokia has to "team up" with European providers in order to sell phones?  How about Motorolla?

Now Jules... what happens when the software you download for your iPhone locks up your phone?  Do you go to AT&T, Apple, or the developers who don't have a phone number?

And what about when the freeware you download for your computer BSODs your system?  Who do you go to then?

 

Bottom line:  Back up your data.  Then you can go ahead and "return phone to factory settings" whenever you want to



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From: Jules <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Sunday, June 1,[masked]:14:02 PM
Subject: Re: [newtech-1] first videos of iPhone (plagiarizer) - Android. full screen

Great point. I like the way you broke things down. Apple is quiet and 
does not usually waste time going after other companies but when any 
other technology becomes a serious threat they will have quite a few 
patents to fight royalty for. It is just a matter of time and timing!

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Jonny Shaw <[address removed]> wrote:

> Soul & Leroy,
>
> Apple needed to partner with "someone" in order to make this happen 
> on their terms if at all. If Apple had not paved the way for 
> creating a phone with a manufacturer supplied and controlled 
> environment (which Verizon did NOT agree to allow) there would be no 
> iPhone and then who would that Android have had to copy from? 
> Microsoft? People make it a habit to let Apple innovate and create 
> new opportunities and then steal them. I can't wait for Apple to sue 
> the pants off of anyone who makes an android phone that borrows too 
> much from what they created. I didn't see a good clear picture but 
> from what I saw the full screen android looked EXACTLY like Apple's 
> iPhone and while iPhones design may seem obvious in hindsight that's 
> only because Apple made it so. Noone seems to recall that everyone 
> thought a phone without a qwerty keyboard couldn't function. BIG 
> RISK from Apple but now that it works it seems obvious.
>
> If it wasn't that AT&T allowed Apple the amount of control they 
> needed you wouldn't have iPhones at all, but now that it works 
> you're upset because AT&T wants to profit from their decision to 
> allow the manufacturer complete interface control. I swear you 
> people should still be stuck using DOS- no mice, no GUI, no color 
> screens. Obviously you don't feel compelled to support the companies 
> that took huge investment gambles to bring them to you, all you care 
> about is cheaper and faster.
>
> PS: When the software you downloaded for your Android phone locks 
> you up and bricks your phone and you can't make or receive calls, 
> don't call on Apple, and when you call Google for help, they won't 
> be able to help so they'll tell you to contact Nokia who will blame 
> the software company you got your phone app from, but when you call 
> the company who sold you the software tells you it's not them it's 
> google (after 12 days of waiting for a machine generated email 
> because they have no phone number), go buy an iPhone on the AT&T 
> network so you can make a call. Or maybe try a zune phone (ha).
>
> That's all I have to say about this one -
>
> Jonny Shaw
> decidometer.com
> 1boom.com
>
>
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