RE: [newtech-1] Disrupting Online classifieds/ Craigslist. Please leave feedback

From: Dean C.
Sent on: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:39 AM

My issue was that the person was called out for “Positing without adding value to the list first”……to be honest this list is defunct.

 

Considering there are supposedly 20,000+ people on this list the amount of posts should be 100 fold.

 

I’m sorry Tony you felt this was a cut and paste job but what did you want the dude to say about his startup apart from hey….this is what we just launched. It’s a crappy startup…but still a startup.

 


Cheers,

Dean

 

From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Jaffe
Sent: Tuesday, March 05,[masked]:20 AM
To: [address removed]
Subject: Re: [newtech-1] Disrupting Online classifieds/ Craigslist. Please leave feedback

 

I'm sorry Tony, but Chris's post was just fine. It's a NYC based company that just launched an attempt at "disrupting" a previous disruptor (Silicon Valley based Craigslist). PublicTrades is not paid only - it's a freemium model, which the feature list made clear.

 

Are we really attempting to quash all new NYC startups launch announcements as spam or only the ones where the sender isn't as articulate? And I do mean quash, because of your threat to report the sender even after he issued an apology.

 

How did Chris B's message impact/help me from a tech standpoint? First off, I immediately thought of Freecycle and Craigslist and mentally thought one of the cool things being employed here was an integration with escrow.com. Then I actually clicked the live link in Chris B's email to escrow.com. I thought of several active projects in my firm where we could employ an API access to a service like escrow.com to benefit (even though they are a Valley company I won't hold it against them ;)). I also went to the Public Trades site and was very interested in the Virtual Hustle concept, which at least for me was the first time I had seen the concept of real-time multi-party negotiated ecommerce. 

 

So technically speaking, there is something of interest in Public Trades. About a year ago at the University of Florida, there was an interesting paper on developing a module for real-time multi-party negotiated ecommerce written by Stanley Y.W. Su, Chunbo Huang, Joachim Hammer, Yihua Huang, Haifei Li, Liu Wang, Youzhong Liu, Charnyote Pluempitiwiriyawej, Minsoo Lee, and Herman Lam (yes, a lot of names, but I have a pet peeve about not giving people who worked on something credit).

 

 

You once wrote a long diatribe along the lines that should Apple or Microsoft advertise, it is spam, but struggling startups are given much wider latitude especially during launch, especially in NYC. For me Chris B's post was of value, and unlike many others he only sent one announcement rather than a string of emails leading up to an announcement. Let's be a bit warmer in welcoming a new company to the NY Tech Startup scene. It's cold enough in NY this week already.

 

***

Chris B for you some feedback:

 

- rethink the logo (hard to read and distracting with the shadow)

- I'd strongly consider redesigning using a responsive framework - the site was not resizing to fit on my iPhone and even on desktop when browser at half screen

- when access is denied - something that happened frequently to me as a guest - I'd still like to know what would have been on the page

- you have 10 css files and at least a dozen js files all called individually when you should bundle and compress them

- you're quite far back on jQuery using version 1.3.2. when 1.9.1 is the current version - usually you don't want a 'new' site to launch with much older version

- I had some technical errors when trying to connect with Facebook

 

Good luck. 

 


 

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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Anthony Zeoli <[address removed]> wrote:

Chris,

 

If you lurk on this list, then you should absolutely know throwing some cut and paste job onto the list is considered spamming the list. We know you're excited and we're excited for you, but next time you spam the list like this without coming on and addressing the list personally and posting appropriately, I'm going to report you again to the NYTM organizers, like I did today. You win zero points with me here. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm sure you haven't engendered a lot of enthusiasm through your crass self-promotion without ever contributing anything of value to the list.



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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:16 PM, <[address removed]> wrote:

Dear Tony,

On sincerely apologize on behalf of PublicTrades if our news is considered as spam. We are excited about the launch and strongly believe that passing the news to fellow tech enthusiasts on Tech meetup for honest reviews/ feedback will validate the services that we strive to provide. Again, I apologize.

 

Sincerely,

Chris B

PublicTrades.

Chris,

 

Your blatant disregard for spamming the list with your announcement is in poor taste.

 

Don't ever spam this list again with a "copy and paste" announcement. You get on here yourself and speak to us like you're supposed to.

 

I'm going to be contacting your organization to complain. What you did is considered spam and is not welcome.

 

While we're certainly interested in the launch of this site, there are better ways of going about it than just copying and pasting a canned message to an email list serve. You should all know better than that.

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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Chris B <[address removed]> wrote:

Dear Meetup Tech enthusiast, below is a featured list of what you can do on our newly launched platform PublicTrades. Please reply to this message if you'd like to leave us with your feedback/ reviews, Thanks.

Features

Yes

No

  • Buy and sell Products/ Services

Yes

 

  • Haggle product prices in Real Time

Yes

 

  • Invite friends to bargain in Real Time

Yes

 

  • Post and list items for free (2-free items per week,unlimited upgrade)

Yes

 

  • Post service Ads for free (2-free Ads per week,unlimited upgrade)

Yes

 

  • Unlimited posting with membership upgrade

Yes

 

  • Stay in touch with current/previous buyers

Yes

 

Yes

 

  • Social Networking functionalities

Yes

 

  • Accept payment directly from buyers

Yes (Paypal/2co)

 

  • Avoid awkward transaction meetings when selling/buying

Yes

 

  • Product shipment after sale

Yes

 

  • Is PublicTrades an Auction site

 

No

  • Commission/Referral payout after sale

 

No

  • Membership auto recurring charges

 

No

Visit PublicTrades to sell something today

 





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