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Re: [newtech-1] Google and Privacy

From: user 1.
Sent on: Sunday, March 17, 2013 2:16 PM
Mike, your view is naive.

There is privacy abuse everywhere. The fact that you don't read the newspaper, request  government complaint reports or delve into legal filings doesn't mean that confidential data isn't being accessed, traded or otherwise compromised.

Mandated privacy and data security training is, in itself, evidence that a significant problem exists.

One need only look to the latest issue of the New York Post to gauge how prevalent and  dangerous this growing trend is. Whether it's the 'cannibal cop' illegally using government databases to target unwitting victims or faceless hackers exploiting financial records of movie stars and public officials, you cannot deny that this represents a threat to everyone -- and the risk is growing at an alarming rate.

Google has a well-established record of abusing personal and confidential information here in the U.S. and abroad. Media reports, lawsuits and regulatory discussions are rife with case citations of privacy violations committed at the hands of the company and its employees. Public comments made by top Google executives clearly establish that the company is fundamentally opposed to privacy protection.

And people should be afraid -- not only of the sheer numbers of known instances of abuse, but of the training itself. While this training certainly covers the need for data protection and the role effective security protocols can play in maintaining information privacy, it also lays out methods and techniques by which unscrupulous parties may circumnavigate such safety measures.

Mac has a legitimate concern. While you may be dismissive of his concern or adopt the view that this very real and sinister problem doesn't exist, it does not change the fact that privacy abuses take place every second of every day and carry serious, adverse consequences for individuals and organizations around the world -- and, so far, we have been unable to stop it or even slow it down.



On Mar 17, 2013, at 1:23 PM, Michael McNeill <[address removed]> wrote:

I'm sorry, but what proof do you have that Google's employees have "fun going through people's privacy"? I don't recall any sort of situation where Google has played with sensitive user information.

Also, why does Google saying they are going to educate employees on privacy scare you? Have you been to a hospital? Did you know any employee or volunteer that deals with patient information has to have privacy training to comply with HIPPA? Or what about at universities that have to have all employees that deal with student information go through FERPA training to learn about privacy and how to keep student information private? Does that scare you too? 

Come on Mac, Google messed up accidentally and they are paying the price AND trying to right the wrong by educating people. If you don't like it, or are concerned that they are having fun with your privacy, then please, move to Microsoft's Outlook, Yahoo! Mail, or another platform, and then you have done your part to take their user count down 1. 

M

On Sunday, March 17, 2013, mac shaw wrote:
I'm not a conspiracies and going try to scare people but Google and its innovative products are 1984 Big Brother type of technology. In October of[masked],000 people in Germany asked for pics of their houses and apartments to be removed from Street view. Thats a quarter million people that feel their privacy is violated. Google Glasses are already building concern with privacy.
 The real issue is Google employees having fun going through people's privacy. Its scary when a company like Google says they're going educate employees about privacy and inform the public about securing wireless networks.

On Mar 17, 2013, at 10:30 AM, mac shaw wrote:

> Last week Google admitted that they were violating peoples privacy during its street view mapping project. Scooping up peoples passwords, information etc.  Google was fined 7 million dollars but is worth 220 billion dollars. Will this stop you from using Google products knowing that they can and have violated peoples privacy? Or you care but wont do anything because Google is so great? Or will you do something about it and try your best to stop them? Or  will you do nothing cause you don't care?
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