Re: [newtech-1] [feedback] Student Aims to Eliminate Cheating on Exams

From: user 8.
Sent on: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:38 PM
Hi Eddie,

Thanks for the comment. As a student I am fully aware of the different tricks teachers use to prevent cheating. However, 5 different versions for a class of 50 kids is not so effective at preventing cheating. 

As a reminder the exams are scrambled online and the order of the questions and the order of the answers are scrambled as well, and, they are made for print. 

It is for exam creation and like I mentioned to Bill it is something that I am going to fix. 

However, like I asked Bill, how would I go about marketing a product like this to different educators?

Respectfully,
Eli Attias

On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:36 AM, EddieN <[address removed]> wrote:

This sounds like a programmatic version of what my old college teachers used to do. They'd create what they called "variants", three or four different sets of exam questions, then they'd randomly assign seats for each student so the person with variant A would be sitting next to the person with variant B, sitting next to the person with variant C, and so on. This scheme usually fell apart when the students discovered that all the variant A people were in a straight line from the front of the classroom to the back... :)

Eli, in addition to what Bill said, which I think would be the largest constraint on your system, look into making a tablet-friendly version of your software. This looks like something tailor-made for an iPad/Nexus 10.

Good luck!
Eddie


On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Bill Greenbaum <[address removed]> wrote:
Eli,

I'm excited about education, and this sounds like a great service.  You asked for input.

A big challenge (imo) in this day and age of low pay and performance-based incentives for teachers and school principals, is that the temptation is too much for some teachers, and they will game the system to inflate their students' grades.  Any system that gives the teacher or administrator control over grading records is open to this kind of fraud.

 If your service could include capability to detect and prevent that form of fraud, it would become a blockbuster.

Also, I would check market research on penetration of smart phones among teachers. If it looks promising, be sure to enable mobile access to this service.

-Bill Greenbaum

On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Eli Attias <[address removed]> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I would like to formally introduce myself now that I have been a part of the community for some time. My name is Eli Attias and I am a student at Baruch College in NYC. Over the past few months my team and I have been developing a service that aims to eliminate cheating in the classroom, namely, on exams.
>
> The service, which will eliminate cheating, is designed for teachers to create, generate, and evaluate their exams. Teachers input their questions and answers online and can select how many versions they would like to generate. Our service with scramble the order of the questions and the order of the answers too. Each version will be completely unique so if there are 10, 20, 50, or even 500 students in the class, each one can have their own unique exam (depends on how many questions there are on the exam of course. You can't scramble 1 question 500 times and have each version different from the next). The next phase is evaluation. Each exam gets printed with an exam ID at the top of the page which corresponds to an answer key online. Teachers can easily access their answer keys for every exam and grade them accordingly.
>
> I am pleased to announce that my team has successfully completed the phase 1 portion of v1.0 and we have yet to launch it to the public.
>
> The reason we are not launching it just yet is because I wanted to ask for advice from the group to see how we can improve. If it would be okay, I would like to ask for your feedback and advice to see how I can get this product out there to the many educators who need this and then eventually, to entire universities.
>
> We have been bug testing the service for some time and we feel it is ready to be shared.
>
> If you guys can help me out I would greatly appreciate. Advice, connections, feedback, and any thing that can help is encouraged. If you are interested, please sign up and test it out or encourage your friends that are educators to share it as well.
>
> Please email me directly at [address removed] so as not to spam this group.
>
> The link to the website is http://exambler.com
>
> Thank you all very much for your time. I appreciate it tremendously.
>
> Respectfully,
> Eli Attias
>
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