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RE: [newtech-1] Whatever happened to micropayments?

From: Dean C.
Sent on: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:34 PM
Yep - it's interesting when we try and explain why iMode is so
successful to American carriers - it's because Docomo takes a flat 10%
of all revenue from everyone.

It doesn't matter if you are a major player like American Idol or some
small person knocking out a few comic strips a week, if you have a
content offering and people are prepared to pay your asking price Docomo
will gladly sign you up as a content provider.

None of this tiered on deck/off deck service offering BS that the USA
puts content providers through the ringer for.

If anyone has an interest in this space feel free to get in touch for my
consulting rates  as I have a ton of supporting content on this topic.



Regards,

Dean Collins
Cognation Pty Ltd
[address removed] 
[masked] Ph
[masked] (Sydney in-dial).



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
> Frederic Guarino
> Sent: Monday, 27 August[masked]:06 PM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [newtech-1] Whatever happened to micropayments?
> 
> Hi all and thanks Eddie and others for the lively discussion on a key
subject.
> 
> I second Dean's point on the disconnect between carriers' wishes and
> the reality of the market. The Asian examples (Korea, Japan) we all
> have in mind only work because the carriers there takes a maximum of
> 10% of retail from the content/service provider to extend the billing
> facility. A sad point is that NTT DoCoMo has failed in exporting its
> model as most of the overseas i-mode roll-outs are slowly winding down
> (see UK). The US carriers are periodically revising their rate cards
> and we should all see some relief there.
> 
> For other examples of other failed micropayment implementations, check
> what Moneo http://www.moneo....­ has done in France with its debit
> card-based model where pricing deterred use. (see
> http://www.arrayd...­)
> 
> The key question remains : should micropayments be card-based or
> device-based (see Mastercard Paypass
>
http://www.master...­
)
> 
> On 8/26/07, Dean Collins <[address removed]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Eddie, been away for a few days so coming into this discussion
late.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think the real reason this hasn't worked out in the USA is because
of
> > greed. One of www.Cognation.net clients is an Australian company
called
> > www.TractionPlatform­.com
> >
> >
> >
> > They have an extremely busy business in Australia and the UK of
which one
> > portion involves premium sms services as you described with your
coke
> > machine in Finland. When they looked to implement similar services
here in
> > the USA the US mobile carriers were looking for around 50% of the
billing
> > unit price in order to implement these services.
> >
> >
> >
> > There is no way coke (or their distributors) is prepared to cut
Verizon in
> > for 50% of the transaction in order to implement this. Technology is
not the
> > issue here ? it's just management.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dean Collins
> > Cognation Pty Ltd
> > [address removed]
> > [masked] Ph
> > [masked] (Sydney in-dial).
> >
> > ____________________­____________
> >
> >
> > From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf
Of
> EddieN
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 August[masked]:13 PM
> > To: [address removed]
> > Subject: Re: [newtech-1] Whatever happened to micropayments?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Micropayments in the US might be relatively dead in the water, but
in other
> > countries it is picking up steam, even though it might not be either
> > formally known as such. Example: in Finland it is possible to pay
for a Coke
> > at a vending machine by sending an SMS message to the vending
machine. The
> > cost of the drink is added to your wireless phone bill. Nice, fast,
and
> > secure. Similar schemes are available in parts of west Africa,
though not as
> > sophisticated as the one I just referenced .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Eddie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/22/07, Nick B. <[address removed]> wrote:
> >
> > Every time I have to yank out my wallet in a public place just to
buy a few
> > hours of wifi, or look at a donation button on a site, I ask myself:
> >
> > "Whatever happened to micropayments?"
> >
> > A problem still not solved, an vein still not tapped, despite years
of
> > effort. What's the deal??
> >
> > - Nick
> >
> >
> >
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