Re: [permaculture-61] Re: Re: Occupy Wall Street

From: user 5.
Sent on: Monday, October 24, 2011 3:34 PM
Derek:

My email host gives me two(2) options, "Reply " or "Reply To All" if I hit just Reply and you still get the message
it might be Meet-up.com difficiency, But I'll check.

Ifa :-)

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From: Derek Denckla <[address removed]>
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Sent: Mon, 24 Oct[masked]:46:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [permaculture-61] Re: Re: Occupy Wall Street

Folks

If you want to have sidebar convos, please reply to the individual rather than the whole permaculture-61 list.  

Nothing that is said conversationally needs to be broadcast.  Please consider the same regime with posing questions, unless they will be of definite interest to the whole list.  

I fear that myself and others may unsubscribe from the list if the cross talk does not decrease.  That would be a shame because I enjoy the info and the announcements but not the chatter.  

Please take these comments in the collaborative and positive spirit in which they were intended!  Thanks for your understanding.

Derek Denckla

On Oct 24, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Ifa Sango wrote:

Excellent Piece Rob ... Thank you for sharing that.

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From: Rob Meyer
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Sent: Mon, 24 Oct[masked]:01:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [permaculture-61] Re: Re: Occupy Wall Street

On the subject of overpopulation:

http://overpopulationisamyth.com/overpopulation-the-making-of-a-myth

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On Oct 24, 2011, at 11:00 AM, Ifa Sango <[address removed]> wrote:

Good Start ... I have a few line items that I'm attempting to organize and get consensus on.
I'm concerned about #3.  I don't want this issue of over-population to be a justification for Genocide.
Control of  the Earth's Resources in the hands of a few is the main reason population is "Perceived"  to be
a problem.  Drought and Global Warming effects food supply.  Thereby raising population concerns.
Let's take a hard look at item #3.

Ifa

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From: Irfan
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Sent: Mon, 24 Oct[masked]:51:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [permaculture-61] Re: Re: Occupy Wall Street

The TRUTH about Occupy Wall Street


On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Claudia Joseph <[address removed]> wrote:
Apologies for the split post - CJ
If you wish to participate in re-forming the wording, join that thread.
Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:47 PM, robert jereski <[address removed]> wrote:
1. overconsumption and destruction of creation (the natural world) on
which we depend (vs. thrift and preservation)
2. Metrics of economic well being based on growth (i.e.
overconsumption (vs. economics being subservient to human and

environmental well-being). For example: free market fundamentalism
whereby the basest human motives (selfishness and greed) are
considered to magically - as if by some invisible hand - lead society
and the planet to some healthy and even noble outcome (vs. responsible

equitable economic planning)
3. overpopulation (vs. concern for future generations)
4. continued extraction and use of hydrocarbons (now including
unconventional oil, coal, and methane (not just oil)) (vs. source-

shifting to renewables and reducing and eliminating the use of
polluting goods and services)
5. displacement of indigenous peoples from their traditional lands to
feed the avarice of governments and greedy corporations (instead of

recognizing the rights of indigenous peoples)

just a start. . .but i think these need to be addressed.


(suggestions forwarded do not fall under the banner of corporate behavior.
How would we unify these  messages?
I have been listening in on the compost and sustainability thread - they need more buckets for compost.   - CJ






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