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Re: Re: [permaculture-61] Converting waste to compost: follow up meeting

From: Greg T.
Sent on: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:57 PM
i've got the 2nd floor reserved for Thurs. Feb. 28  7:00 at the Commons.  Let me know if you can make it.
Thanks
Greg
 
 
On 02/18/13, Sandra Nurse<[address removed]> wrote:
 
I know Greg had mentioned the idea of a meeting.  I think this would be really helpful to get folks in a room to share ideas and resources, if any. 

For our youth compost collection jobs program, we are finalizing our kickstarter video, but wanted to see if anyone was interested in meeting up to further work out logistics, schematics, etc of how it could work.  

Also, thinking about chapters in the boroughs and how it could be scaled up.  Love Greg's proposal too. 

There is space at the Commons, my friends work on the second floor there.  Just re-throwing out that idea. 

Cheers, 

Sandy
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Sue Peters <[address removed]> wrote:
Great idea!

I found this in an email:

Grants Available for Community Composting

Citizens Committee for New York City, the Manhattan Solid Waste Advisory Board (SWAB), and Manhattan Borough President Scott M. Stringer invite you to apply for grants to start, expand and grow composting programs in all five boroughs of New York City. Grants of up to $750 will be awarded to community groups working on neighborhood composting programs. Groups eligible for funding include community associations, community gardens, friends of park groups, housing development groups, nonprofits, schools, colleges and universities, hospitals, and private businesses. Grants can be used to purchase materials to start or expand upon a composting program. Applications are due by March 22, 2013. Download the application.

 
 Sue
 
On 02/10/13, Greg Todd<[address removed]> wrote:
 
Folks:
 
Thanks for all of the responses, this is getting exciting!
 
The unique nature of bike carting requires a route that covers about 20 blocks, no more.  Unlike traditional truck routes that might span several neighborhoods, bikes can’t efficiently cover such large areas.  More than 20 blocks and the biker will wear out and take too long to cover his/her route.   Working with Starbucks would be great once we had an established network of bike routes in a lot of neighborhoods, but not until then.
 
Thus the focus here is on getting a lot of shops in one neighborhood so that a biker could ideally pick up at several shops on one block.   We would have routes which would drop off at a composting machine near each neighborhood in Northern Brooklyn.  For example Crown Heights, Clinton Hill and parts of Bed-Stuy could be serviced by a composting machine in the manufacturing zone between Bergen and Atlantic, Grand and Franklin in North Crown Heights.  Another machine could be located in the Brooklyn Navy Yard, another in Williamsburgh’s manufacturing zone, another in Bushwick’s, and so on.   The finished compost could be sold at venues local to the neighborhoods, at farmer’s markets, hardware stores, landscapers, nurseries, etc. 
 
This model would also reduce waste brought to transfer stations that now saturate certain neighborhoods such as Greenpoint, another plus.
 
I’d love to meet with folks face-to-face on this topic.  I’m imagining we could get some space at the The Brooklyn Commons at 388 Atlantic Ave between Bond and Hoyt or possibly the Center for Nursing and Rehab in Crown Heights on Classon between Park and Prospect.
 
Would be week of February 25th work?  What day is best?
 
Thanks,
Greg
 
 
 
Greg Todd
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"While one person is talking about how difficult something is;
another person is doing it." - LL Cool J
 

Folks:
 
Are you aware that every month the City of New York pays private carters millions of dollars to ship compostable food wastes to landfills in the Midwest,  while we import compost from Long Island and Canada for our gardens?
 
I’ve created a proposed business that would collect these food wastes principally from small coffee shops, juice bars and restaurants and convert them to compost.  This business would employ local youths to pedal bike carts to collect the wastes, then convert them to compost in small in-vessel composting machines located in manufacturing zones scattered throughout our communities.  This type of business model exists successfully in other cities such as North Hampton Mass. and Phila. Penn. but has yet to take hold here in NYC.
 
It seems that the City wants more evidence of demand for composting services before they will create a carting license that makes sense for community carters such as the one I propose.
If we could get say 50 coffee houses to complete this survey, we might be able to convince the City that the demand exists.
 
Below is a link to an on-line survey I created that collects information about the demand for collection of coffee grounds that exists at local coffee houses.
 
 
Please feel free to forward this email to your favorite coffee house and ask them to complete it the survey.  When you do so, you might ask them what they’re doing now with their coffee grounds, day old baked goods, fruit pulp, food waste and other compostables.  Suggest you might be more likely to patronize an establishment that composts their food wastes, rather than one that sends them to a landfill. 
 
Also feel free to forward this email to your friends as well.
 
Let me know if you have any questions or would like to learn more about what I propose.
 
Let’s see if we collectively can put an end to this foolish waste of resources and City tax revenues.
 
 
Thanks
Greg
 
 
Greg Todd
Community Carting and Composting
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"While one person is talking about how difficult something is;
another person is doing it." - LL Cool J
 




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