addressalign-toparrow-leftarrow-rightbackbellblockcalendarcameraccwcheckchevron-downchevron-leftchevron-rightchevron-small-downchevron-small-leftchevron-small-rightchevron-small-upchevron-upcircle-with-checkcircle-with-crosscircle-with-pluscontroller-playcrossdots-three-verticaleditemptyheartexporteye-with-lineeyefacebookfolderfullheartglobegmailgooglegroupshelp-with-circleimageimagesinstagramFill 1linklocation-pinm-swarmSearchmailmessagesminusmoremuplabelShape 3 + Rectangle 1ShapeoutlookpersonJoin Group on CardStartprice-ribbonprintShapeShapeShapeShapeImported LayersImported LayersImported Layersshieldstartickettrashtriangle-downtriangle-uptwitteruserwarningyahoo

Re: [permaculture-61] Fwd: Re: [COMFOOD: ] Aquaponics Survey: Question re: public health & nutrition

From: user 3.
Sent on: Friday, September 13, 2013 5:50 PM
Thank you very much for this . I am really interested in aquaponics and raising fish.

From: Natalie <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Sent: Friday, September 13,[masked]:00 PM
Subject: [permaculture-61] Fwd: Re: [COMFOOD: ] Aquaponics Survey: Question re: public health & nutrition

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Debbie Hillman" <[address removed]>
Date: Sep 12,[masked]:20 AM
Subject: Re: [COMFOOD: ] Aquaponics Survey: Question re: public health & nutrition
To: "COMFOOD ComFood" <[address removed]>

Hi, Dave --

Thanks so much for your  answers to my questions.   For your and everyone else's interest, I received two additional thoughts about aquaponics from other COMFOOD members.  (I'm happy to give them credit, but since they sent these comments off-line, I'm respecting their privacy.)  Here's the two comments.

1.  Great questions! thank you!  I read somewhere - and I have not been able to dig up the study - that plants grown hydroponically do not produce much good seed.

2.  I agree with you, Debbie.  I do not think the diversity of organisms in the soil – its complexity and largely unknown nutrient richness – can be repeated in aquaponics.
Soil!   Did you ever read David Suzuki’s book SACRED BALANCE?  It has separate chapters on soil, water and air.  Odes, really.  One of many writers writing about the richness of soil. 

The "take-away" that I get from your response and the others is that aquaponics is not yet fully vetted as a major source of human food (and of the major capital investment and use of water that is involved).    I might also add, in response to the study on basil grown hydroponically and the "richer" levels of health promoting compounds, I think that mere chemical analysis is not a true measure of nutrition in a working human body.    Creating nutrition out of chemistry -- "enriched" foods, vitamins, other synthetic supplements, synthetic fertilizers, etc. -- has itself raised red flags as to the nutrition that a living organism derives out of those manufactured foods (not to mention the residues and waste products of such manufacturing, which I know nothing about except that they exist.)

On the other hand, my local Montessori school (Chiaravalle Montessori School here in Evanston, IL) has been growing (and selling) basil hydroponically for a local bagel sandwich shop (Bagel Art) for a number of years.  I support both the school and the bagel shop in this initiative as a project that demonstrates relationships among food, farm, local economy, and community building, as well as the relationships that James Godsil described in his email about Sweet Water Foundation.

Thanks again for your response and information.   

-- Debbie

Debbie Hillman
Evanston, Illinois
[address removed]
D. Hillman Strategies:  Food Policy for Voters

Evanston Eats

"Sometimes there is a kind of current from my heart that goes out to the universe, and then it pauses and comes back into me, and goes out again."     --  Vijali Hamilton, artist  
in Feminine Face of God: The Unfolding of the Sacred in Women, by Sherry Ruth Anderson and Patricia Hopkins

NO FUNDRAISING ON COMFOOD.   NO JOBS LISTINGS: Post jobs, internships, or volunteer opportunities to  Comfoodjobs:  To subscribe:

Comfood posting guidelines:

Subscribe  to COMFOOD:     Unsubscribe from COMFOOD:

Please Note: If you hit "REPLY", your message will be sent to everyone on this mailing list ([address removed])
This message was sent by Natalie ([address removed]) from The New York Permaculture Meetup.
To learn more about Natalie, visit his/her member profile
Set my mailing list to email me As they are sent | In one daily email | Don't send me mailing list messages

Meetup, POB 4668 #37895 NY NY USA 10163 | [address removed]

Sign up

Meetup members, Log in

By clicking "Sign up" or "Sign up using Facebook", you confirm that you accept our Terms of Service & Privacy Policy