Re: [permaculture-61] Fluoride in our waters

From: Nee nee b.
Sent on: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:32 PM
Pooja, I believe it was just created as a byproduct of superphosphate fertilizers and then "sold" back to us as something good for us. They had no other solution for it after it was banned from being dumped in waters.?

On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Pooja <[address removed]> wrote:
Also, does anyone have information on who invented sodium fluoride, when, etc.? I can't seem to find it anywhere.


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Nee nee bee <[address removed]> wrote:
I just read this website. Yet another shocking look at how much we're having the wool pulled over our eyes in this toxic environment we're living in.


More reasons to get involved in protecting the water.?

And, in the meantime, here is one of the available fluoride filters out there...an at home end-of-the-pipeline solution:


Some excerpts from fluoride alert's website below.....

?US EPA scientist, Dr. Robert Carton, who after he examined the evidence declared, "Fluoridation is a scientific fraud, probably the greatest fraud of the century"?

30. Some of the earliest opponents of fluoridation were biochemists. One of those early opponents was one of the world's leading authorities on enzyme chemistry, Nobel laureate Dr. James Sumner at Cornell University. He said:

"We ought to go slowly. Everybody knows fluorine and fluorides are very poisonous substances...We use them in enzyme chemistry to poison enzymes, those vital agents in the body. That is the reason things are poisoned; because the enzymes are poisoned and that is why animals and plants die."

he source of the fluoride used to fluoridate water in the US.

57.?As mentioned above, about 90% of the water fluoridated in the US contains either hexafluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6) or its sodium salt (Na2SiF6). These are obtained from the super-phosphate industry from the scrubbing solution used to remove hydrogen fluoride from atmospheric releases. By law, these scrubbing liquids cannot be dumped into the sea, lakes, rivers or streams. However, the US EPA does allow them to be diluted down to 1 ppm and then to be added to our drinking water. From there the fluoride can be flushed through our bodies before it enters rivers and then the sea! According to one US EPA official this is an excellent way of dealing with "water and air pollution" problems?(74).?Canada's leading pro-fluoridation dental authority, Dr. Hardy Limeback, recently changed his position. (Limeback's qualifications include: Ph.D in Biochemistry, D.D.S., Head of the Department of Preventive Dentistry at the University of Toronto, and President of the Canadian Association for Dental Research). In a December 1999 press interview he cited one of the reasons for his dramatic turn-around:

"the crowning blow was the realization that we have been dumping contaminated fluoride into water reservoirs for half a century. The vast majority of all fluoride additives come from Tampa Bay, Florida smokestack scrubbers. The additives are a toxic byproduct of the super-phosphate fertilizer industry" (75).

Barry Forbes, the newspaper reporter who published this interview with Limeback, wrote:

"Last week, Dr. Hardy Limeback addressed his faculty and students at the University of Toronto, Department of Dentistry. In a poignant, memorable meeting, he apologized to those gathered before him. `Speaking as the head of preventive dentistry, I told them that I had unintentionally mislead my colleagues and my students. For the past 15 years, I had refused to study the toxicology information that is readily available to anyone. Poisoning our children was the furthest thing from my mind. The truth,' he confessed to me, `was a bitter pill to swallow. But swallow it I did' " (75).

Many others, including myself, are outraged that our health may be put at risk to facilitate the waste disposal needs of the super-phosphate industry. However, from this industry's narrow economic point of view it makes a lot of sense. It converts a hazardous waste disposal cost of about $400 million a year to a profit of $180 million from sales to the public water works. Citizens like George Glasser in Florida have raised the issue of the other pollutants present in these scrubbing solutions (76). Even though they are diluted at the public water works from about a 24% percent solution (24 parts per hundred) to a 1 part per million solution of fluoride, the worry is that even after this dilution certain pollutants and radioactive isotopes may still be present at unacceptable levels.




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