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Re: [nyhackr] Meetup attendance; new mandatory fee

From: Thomas L.
Sent on: Sunday, January 15, 2012 10:05 PM
Ooh ooh I know! We count attendance for a bunch of meetups (not just
this group) and then have a meetup/hackday where we all use open
statistical programming tools to come up with a way to get the right
number of warm bodies to show up to a meetup!

Tom

On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Peter Flom
<[address removed]> wrote:
> Another method is to simply ban anyone who does this twice or something like
> that.
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> From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On Behalf Of
> Peter W Lindner
> Sent: Sunday, January 15,[masked]:03 PM
> To: [address removed]
> Subject: Re: [nyhackr] Meetup attendance; new mandatory fee
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> I agree. Another method is to actually count attendance and overbook based
> on past experience, and be generous with people on the wait list, who may be
> the ones who are anxious to attend, while the others are just routinely
> saying "yes, I'll go" but have other things come up.
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> In other words, treat people equally, even those who show up at the last
> minute; don't turn them away out of "principle" when there are empty seats.
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> The Met Opera has people not enter after a show begins until the first break
> / applause.
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> Sometimes people, especially NY'ers have so many unexpected things pop up,
> that they can't attend and can't let you know; e.g.: subway delay, crisis at
> the office, medical emergency , sick kid/wife/friend, rain without an
> umbrella (we don't have cars, as in the suburbs), too hungry to make it on
> time, forgetfulness, multiple calendars (work, home, iPhone, DayTimer).
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> And it happens even to me with the best of intentions:  few of us are
> perfect, even if we try to be.
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> Oh, the fee is ok. But I'm saying there are alternate methods. Wealthier
> people won't care about wasting $20, while $5 may be a lot if you're a
> student or unemployed and also have to pay transportation, which if it's a
> taxi is another $10 to $20 each way.
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> Regards, Pete Lindner...
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> On Jan 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sal Leggio <[address removed]> wrote:
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> Thanks, Drew.
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> That will make it easier to get on the list! I am often closed out.
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> From: jim greensberg <[address removed]>
> To: [address removed]
> Sent: Saturday, January 14,[masked]:55 PM
> Subject: RE: [nyhackr] Meetup attendance; new mandatory fee
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> I hear you Drew. I just tought of sendind you a thank you and cheer up
> message!
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [nyhackr] Meetup attendance; new mandatory fee
> From: Drew Conway <[address removed]>
> Date: Fri, January 13,[masked]:39 am
> To: [address removed]
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> All,
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> It is with regret and disappointment that I write this email.  For many
> months I have been frustrated by the chasm that exists between the number of
> people that RSVP for our meetup, and the number of warm bodies that show up
> at the event.  I have tried several tactics to shrink this divide: change
> venues to a more central location, take attendance, public shame---but,
> nothing seems to have worked.
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> Last night we had 100 people RSVP 'Yes' for the event in less than 24 hrs of
> posting it, and ended up with another 40-or-so on the wait list.  In the
> meantime, several people emailed me asking if they could be "last minute
> adds." I obliged when I could, yet none of those people showed up.  Also, 65
> of all the RSVPs for last night indicated that they would coming early for
> pizza. By 7:30 we had a crowd of roughly 50 (if I am being generous), and
> about 15 came early for  pizza.  You don't have to go to the New York Open
> Statistical Programming Meetup to recognize the failure in those numbers.
>  While we have very generous support from Revolution Analytics, their
> contributions only offsets the cost of pizza, videography equipment and
> software, and web hosting I purchase to support our meetup.
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> Given the current situation, I have decided to make the registration fee
> mandatory for all RSVPs.  I always viewed this as a last-ditch option, and
> here we are.  This is the only credible commitment device Meetup provides,
> and I am now forced to use it.  The most immediate consequence of this is
> that if you have already RSVP'ed for future meetups you will have to
> re-register and pay the fee.
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> Finally, for those of you that indicated your interest in Mike's talk last
> night---which was brilliant--but were not in attendance; the video has been
> posted online: http://vimeo.com/...­
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> I look forward to seeing you at a future meetup.
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> - Drew
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