I just came from 24th St. where a lot of NORML people are, but no one from this group. I asked around but no one knew about us joining them. I don't own a computer, thought there may have been another change and so I left. Don't know where you were guys, sry I missed you but I was in the right place at the right time! Hope your march is excellent!
0 · May 4
Like Michael, I too am excited to meet with the lot of you and discuss your opinions and viewpoints on the legality of marijuana here in NYC.
If you don't mind, I would also like to take note of some of your opinions to share, and open the eyes of some people during my final presentation for my politics class. I hope to see the lot of you there!
0 · April 13
Hello everyone. I hope to meet with many of you and discuss the legal status of cannabis in New York.
In the interests of safety, (whether you are going to the event or not) please familiarize yourself with the laws of NY regarding possession. The NORML website has a comprehensive sheet of offenses and can be found here :
The element of the law that gives the most discretion to police (in other words, would most likely be abused) would be the element of "possession in public use."
This is a misdemeanor punishable up to 90 days and with a maximum fee of $250. The loophole is often exploited by police officers that tell citizens to empty their pockets. Once the cannabis is exposed to the officer, this can be interpreted as "public use."
This upgrades a normal "possession" offense that has no jail time, to the more harsher offense of "public use," which includes jail time.
0 · April 4
Christina and I are very excited by the response and lively conversation taking place on this event. We are most likely going to have a venue decided by the end of the week and will consider all options including those in the comments. While the goal of our events are to link art and culture with cannabis, we do intend on drawing up an initiative to legalize distribution and cultivation of cannabis in the city of New York and will employ all group members to help. More announcements are coming soon from us later in the week. Lets keep the conversation going.
0 · April 2
I'm surprised that only 30 pot heads want to meet. Maybe if the title of this meet was clearly dedicated to 100% decriminalization of pot there would be thousands.
Although weather reports aren't perfect they are reliable. The park is by far the best spot. If rain is forecast we can postpone to the following Sat.
When I saw OPEN CANNABIS I jumped to the conclusion this was to decriminalize. Now I see there are debaters lined up.
Bill, I never said to meet in Staten Island. I said use the terminal. Is there anybody against Washington Square Park on a warm, sunny day?
Can this get more simple? Have a weather confirmation on Thursday 4/18. Change the time to 2PM. After that I'm going for dinner and whoever wants to join me is welcome.
Think of the thousands of dollars each pot head will save by growing pot legally. Release all the pot heads from prison and replace them with Wall Street crooks. Start with Jon Corzine who ripped off 38,000 MF Global customers.
0 · April 2
Having the meeting on Staten Island would probably exclude 75% of the people, including me. I don't know of any Whole Food that has room for 30 people to meet and share a single conversation and all be able to hear each other without driving the other partrons nuts. The idea of meeting at Washington Square is pretty good, and if the weather's bad we can just postpone.
My meetup is discussing drug legalization the day after this group's meeting. There's still room on the wait list: http://www.meetup.com/3topics/
0 · April 1
I prefer to grow my own weed like I grow tomatoes every year. The Feds will sentence you from 10 to 15 years for a few plants. I have a remedy for eliminating the criminal charge. If there are people interested in discussing a remedy please identify yourself. I have no interest in debating Jon Parks about any of his issues. Medical marijuana is the worst strategy for this problem. I don't need permission to take an aspirin. I don't care why anybody wants to smoke weed.
What's the point of this meeting? Having fun, laughing, etc. isn't a crime. I want to be able to have my mind altered because its my mind.
1 · April 2
Jon you have every right to be unclear. It appears to me that you are a rant and that is fine with me. There is no crime. That is legal. If the hypocrites decided growing tomatoes is a crime, that isn't legal. Gambling bank deposits is illegal but the hypocrites call that proprietary trading. Jon you have every right to be confused and to rant.
It says, "join the conversation". Is that confusing? If you're against weed you might feel out of place. Is that your rant?
0 · March 28
OK we can see the weather report 2 or 3 days before. Whole Foods is fine with me if they allow meetings.
The Staten Island Ferry terminal would also be an option if there is bad weather.
Any viable indoor alternative is fine for a back up. How JH do you know the weather will be bad? Let's bet $10 on the weather. If its not over 50 and no rain you pay $10.
0 · April 1
SM> I recommend the time be earlier 2:00 PM in Washington Square Park. There we can attract many more people. The weather will be nice.
I agree that an earlier time Saturday would be better, BUT I do not think Washington Square is a good location unless God tells us that it won't rain! How (SM) do you know 'the weather will be nice'?
So I propose a different location. There's a Whole Foods store at 97th St/Columbus Ave where we could sit indoors, typically lots of space, even good food & drink. I've been to several Meet-ups there, and it's worked well for us.
0 · April 1
There would be a huge potential for this group to successfully form a strategy if people attend with an open mind. I have given this problem lots of thought. America has far greater problems than the weed issue and people are pissed. Let's just see what happens.
Starting this meeting at 7 is a really bad idea. Why not vote on a better time? I prefer 2 at Washington Square Park.
Why do we need to accept bigotry, paranoia, and irrational behavior as an immoveable obstacle. Its a huge obstacle but if we start by accepting psychotic behavior as permanent this meeting is a waste of time. Weed is no more a crime than aspirin.
I eat too much. Should I be put in prison for that?
0 · April 1
I agree with Stephen...people abuse video games, but that's socially acceptable. My problem with the current policy is actually not with the laws themselves (our country has a long history of bigotry and paranoia so we need to accept that as a given). I think that although it is practical for recreational smokers to use medicinal marijuana as an excuse in the short term, it hurts both medicinal and recreational users alike. It de-legitimizes weed as having medicinal value and shifts the public's attention from the issue of recreational weed being less detrimental than alcohol, cigarettes, coffee or even simply the stress caused by our culture- which measures one's success in life by monetary standards alone. I think that the two need to be separated: battle number one: to make sure patients with chronic problems have a long term alternative that they can CHOOSE whether to accept or not and the second: to convince America that recreational use is not a one-way street leading to Heroin
1 · March 31
Mr. Miller - your post appears more of a rant than a position - i.e. the point is unclear? Are you trying to make a distinction between crime vs vice, or what's moral vs. legal? I'm looking forward to this meet-up and hearing what this is all about. Hopefully views that may dissent are tolerated :-)
0 · March 27
Don't link weed to aspirin, cocaine, heroin or any other man made drug, because God created weed. People abuse food, booze, their budget, and everything imaginable, but abusing those things isn't criminal. There's nothing criminal about weed.
Don't keep falling for the witch hunt trap. That is how the hypocrites control citizens. The foundation for their control is "political correctness". The mechanism is done by media propaganda.
The Federal law needs to be changed, not the NYC law. I beat a Federal weed case in 1992 after being held with no bond for 15 months. My car and cash was confiscated and never returned.
0 · March 27
There are 2 options for this group to decide. The only remedy to eliminate any criminal law is to elect Congress people who are committed to do that, or just keep whining. I have a political strategy that would elect people focused on justice. I would like an opportunity to present my strategy.
The "movement" has failed. It is counterproductive to favor people who have glaucoma, etc. God created marijuana. Creating the criminal law was another ridiculous witch hunt famous by American crack pots. The crack pots need to be exposed and new representatives need to be elected. We can't depend on the hypocrites in congress to act rationally.
1 · March 27
contingent on location and accessibility ....
0 · March 22
0 · March 21