Re: Re: RE: [patriots-33] Allegations

From: Brian
Sent on: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:57 AM
not to mention the whole cut blocking scheme that is technically within the rules but is considered pretty dirty.

Caroline <[address removed]> wrote:
Oh, don't even get me started on Tomlinson. As someone said on Sunday, if you need to call YOURSELF the classiest player in the league, what does that make you, really?

Schlereth needs to shut his pie-hole, too. He was on those two Bronco teams that employed creative mechanisms for Elway and Terrell Davis to get paid beyond the salary cap.

Well, we should know today or tomorrow what is coming down. . .

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From: Brian <[address removed]>
To: [address removed]
Date: Thu, 13 Sep[masked]:56:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: RE: [patriots-33] Allegations

I find it really interesting that Ladanian is calling the pats cheaters, i wonder what he calls his steroid using teammate Merriman who didn't even have the stones to admit what he did (as pointed out by Bill Simmons)? Check out this discussion between Bill Simmons and Aaron Schatz it'll make you feel better. also read the Rick Reilly column from 5 years ago they link to, the Broncos admit using binoculars to catch signs. And former Bronco Mark Schlereth is calling for the Pats to forfeit the game against the Jets...please.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070912

Caroline <[address removed]>wrote:
Agreed.

I don't think Goodell could have the Pats forfeit the game, simply because of the timing of the tape confiscation.

I think the most likely scenario is going to be lost draft picks and a fine. I wouldn't put it past Goodell to suspend Belichick, but I don't think he will.

Honestly, at this point, I just want it to be resolved.

Anyone else catching any crap from their co-workers? I've had Falcons fans attacking me this week, which is interesting - pot calling kettle black much??

I just trust Tommy and the boys to do their talking on the field Sunday night. . .

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From: Greg
To: [address removed]
Date: Wed, 12 Sep[masked]:48:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE: [patriots-33] Allegations

Here's my thoughts...
1.) We can't have been the only team that has had a video camera on the
sideline...we're just the only ones who got caught doing it
2.) This does mean that no other team will have video cameras on the
sidelines from here on out, especially during games where the opponent is
the Pats...so that would help us (as if we needed it).
2.) We were caught THIS year...and not during any of the three years we won
our superbowls. Until someone provides evidence that the Pats were
video-taping during those years...no one should have any questions about the
wins.
3.) Anyone or any team questioning our 3 superbowl wins are probably just
looking for another excuse as to why THEIR team didn't win it that year

The real question is what kind of penalty will be handed down. ESPN and
their fan poll say that the Pats should forfiet their win over the Jets.
Let's hope that is not the case...but even if it is, we should still win the
division hands down.

Anyway...that's just my 2 cents.

Greg

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Brian
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Subject: Re: [patriots-33] Allegations


http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/09/12/nfl_repor
tedly_faults_patriots?mode=PF

"Because the camera and tape were seized in the first quarter Sunday, the
taping most likely did not play a major factor in the outcome, a 38-14
victory."


Sharon wrote:

Ok, but how do you know it was confiscated that early in the game?


On 9/12/07, Brian
wrote:

the video ca mera was confiscated in the first quarter of the game so the
video didn't help them sunday...

Sharon < [address removed]> wrote:

Well, it does look pretty bad. A *@$% Yankee fan had to
tell me about it. I didn't know anything about it until he mentioned it to
me. How humiliating. This is going to open up a huge can of worm about our
winning the 3 Superbowls. You wait.


On 9/12/07, Curtis wrote:

I think it looks worst than it is, the problem is we don't know all the
facts since the Patriots tend be closed mouth about everything. There's
some question about the interpretation of the NFL rules that it may not have
been crystal clear for example if the taping of Sundays the game wasn't used
for Sunday but were being used for future reference Either way it does look
bad and Patriots are going to have to make a more detailed public statement
to clarify the situation.


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From: Brian
To: [address removed]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12,[masked]:36 PM
Subject: Re: [patriots-33] Allegations


It's my understanding that they were doing this but they aren't/weren't the
only team doing it. Zach Thomas admitted as much in the locker room after
the Dolphins beat the Pats last year 21-0. he said something to the effect
that they had all the calls and said they got them by matching up audio and
video sources. consider the impact of that, pats win, they host the colts
in the AFC championship game and Peyton is still looking for ring #1 but
they go on to lose and we all know what happened. i'm not surprised they
(Pats or Dolphins & Bill's buddy Saban) were doing this but I am surprised
and a little disappointed they kept doing it after specifically being told
not to by the league. consider that Brady only got hit once during the
entire game sunday, i mean the OL and Brady are good but not that good.
they probably would still have won the game but i think they had to know
what the Jets D was do ing.

Sharon wrote:

What is going on with the cheating allegations. Do we actually do this? If
so, that makes me feel really disappointed. What does everyone think about
this?



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