Roberta Grimes on Afterlife Communications
While you and I have lips and voices which
Are for kissing and to sing with
Who cares if some one-eyed son of a bitch
Invents an instrument to measure spring with?
- e. e. cummings
Can consciousness only be examined through science? Or can consciousness be examined through consciousness itself? Does history, literature, anthropology, meditation, mystic experience, philosophy, anomaly, the testimonies of millions, have anything to say about consciousness? Or must all defer to the epistemological hegemony of science?
This Consciousness Dialog looks at consciousness from all perspectives and gazes fearlessly at the astonishing and baffling mystery presented by the existence of the universe without restricting thought to the reductive ontological lens of the scientific method. And consciousness is an inseparable part of that mystery.
Now are afterlife communications woo-woo, spooky, and forbidden fringe? Then, one could ask, what could be spookier than consciousness itself? We can at least conceive of an empirical verification for afterlife messages or telepathy. But consciousness itself is the brute fact of an ontological reality entirely different than matter. It is undeniably real, yet as immaterial as a ghost. It has no mass, no dimension, and no measurable objective existence. What could be more supernatural? And yet here it is, non-physical phenomena haunting the entire planet.
Science is driven to say that it must be physical somehow because everything must be physical. Note that this is not based on scientific evidence but on the philosophical premise that the only thing irreducibly real is physical.
We often hear, “There is no evidence for consciousness independent of a brain. When you die, you die. The consciousness is gone and the evidence is a corpse without consciousness." And that is all science has.
But let us apply the same model to a cell phone: If you break a cell phone the people inside it are gone and they are not coming back. But wait a minute, we can go out and find those people and show that they still exist and were only speaking through the cell phone. Obviously there is another possible model for consciousness.
Roberta Grimes, a local practicing attorney, had an experience of light at the age of eight, and a second one at the age of twenty, which set her on a course to try to understand those experiences. In the process she studied nearly two centuries of abundant and consistent afterlife communication. Compiling those communications, she has found a consistent testimony of a rich, varied, and complex existence that is as real as our own. As a result she wrote a book, “The Fun of Dying”. She has had many speaking engagements and radio broadcasts across the country. But of late, her attention has turned to the implications of consciousness for our understanding of the nature of reality. What are the implications for science? For neuroscience? For cosmology? For quantum physics?
Roberta believes these communications tell us something about who and what we really are. She will speak on her afterlife studies and current thinking and then there will be a follow-up Q & A and discussion.