RE: [philosophy-31] Austin Philosophy Discussion Group

From: Jason B.
Sent on: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:45 PM
Following Michael's example, lets move this to the boards (though if I'm understanding you, there is really no point).

http://philosophy.meetup.com/31/boards/view/viewthread?thread=3200805&lastpage=yes#9515520


Richard <[address removed]> wrote:

All your questions to me seem rhetorical and therefore humerous. If you cant
answer the question as to why a philosophy group can defile the profundity
of inner thought you could only have read but a few philosophers--Russel you
may understand but you will never grasp meaning in the exestentialists. When
we decide that we truly want to learn we sacrifice that vegue,
imperceptable, now bold, outlet of social fullfilment.

>From: Jason Bragg
>Reply-To: [address removed]
>To: [address removed]
>Subject: RE: [philosophy-31] Austin Philosophy Discussion Group
>Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 02:14:18 -0400 (EDT)
>
>
> Are you suggesting that meeting and discussing philosophy with others
>that have a similar interest has no purpose, or simply that all truly
>philosophical thought originates in ones self (not in social interaction).
>
> "these club meetings do nothing but blur and bungle and in the end
>nothing is gained but new acquaintances who ironically can be respected in
>perhaps many ways but not as philosophers"
>
>
> Do you find that these discussions "blur or bungle" your ideas?
>
> I like new acquaintances, mostly.
>
> Has anyone here suggested that being a member of this (or any group) is
>what makes a philosopher? Are you suggesting that membership in this (or
>any) group diminishes, in some way, ones 'standing' as a philosopher? Not
>that I would mind, I like to think and don?t really care how that is
>interpreted. I'm just not seeing how membership to a group has anything at
>all to do with one being 'respected as a philosopher'.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Richard wrote: The all of you are mislead. Any
>great thinker will tell you on the eve of
>profound thought that all true and clear revelations are born in seclusion,
>thus, these club meetings do nothing but blur and bungle and in the end
>nothing is gained but new acquaintances who ironically can be respected in
>perhaps many ways but not as philosophers. I wish you would not turn
>reactionary to these comments but meditate on them and realize their truth.
>A philosophy club is like most other clubs because the club aspect
>transcends its prefix aspect. True philosophy takes place after the fact,
>after the day, after the pain, after the joy, but in any case after and not
>in the midst of anything but itself. 'itself' is the experience of
>philosophy; an experience that is unique like love or rage or lethargy out
>of which is born not action but thought, a combination of both love and
>hate, both intellection and emotion, reason and intuition. I want nothing
>more than to love you all, to love all, but know better than anyone how
>only
>the tragedy can be loved, the reality the way it is found and know that
>nothing genuine is plastic, nothing can be changed. Everything great is a
>greater force than oneself and to love it is to adapt to it. When the best
>to be achieved is a place in the back, looking over the heads of the
>crowd-...
>
>
> >From: Bo Zimmerman
> >Reply-To: [address removed]
> >To: [address removed]
> >Subject: RE: [philosophy-31] Austin Philosophy Discussion Group
> >Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:13:43 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >But Jeremy was quite right, and, it seems to me, very kind and
>diplomatic.
> >His reference to looking "beyond the cave" is so classic and central to
>the
> >philosophical project as to be almost clich?. Heck, if nothing else, by
> >attending to those who misunderstand and dispute one's positions and
>words,
> >both parties reach greater clarity on their own positions in the process.
> >Said another way, to know what something is, it is beneficial to also
> >understand what it is not.
> >
> >- Bo Zimmerman
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: [address removed] [mailto:[address removed]] On
>Behalf
> >Of Richard
> >Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 7:07 PM
> >To: [address removed]
> >Subject: Re: [philosophy-31] Austin Philosophy Discussion Group
> >
> >On account of this email you have succeeded in making a real naive dolt
>of
> >yourself, and annoying too.
> >
> >
> > >From: Jeremy Lloyd
> > >Reply-To: [address removed]
> > >To: [address removed]
> > >Subject: Re: [philosophy-31] Austin Philosophy Discussion Group
> > >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 03:33:43 -0400 (EDT)
> > >
> > >
> > >Not to be patronizing by simplicity, but by only subjecting yourself to
> >the
> >
> > >philosophical topics you feel comfortable with, you're really
> >circumventing
> >
> > >your potential for elucidation. Isn't that the point of philosophy, to
> >see
> > >beyond the cave?
> > >
> > >There are far more traumatizing things than being refuted, or revealing
> > >your ignorance. I'm sure there's some Confucian parable about how to
>the
> > >path to teaching requires first the steps of a student, somewhere, if I
> > >admitted to owning that type of literature.
> > >
> > >Again, sorry if this comes across as a lecture, it just seems to be a
> >waste
> >
> > >to have someone with the aptitude for clarity and deduction to hover
>away
> > >from anxiety.
> > >
> > >Jeremy
> >
> >
> >
> >
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