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Book Club Potluck - "Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity"

  • Aug 23, 2013 · 7:00 PM
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Richard will host the August 23 discussion of "Contingency, Irony, and Solidarity" by Richard Rorty. I suggested this book. Here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Contingency-Irony-and-Solidarity-ebook/dp/B0014DF4G2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374412990&sr=1-1&keywords=contingency+irony+and+solidarity.

The other option for July is Terry's pick, "The Rebel" by Albert Camus. See the August 16 Meetup.

The September poll results are in, and the winners are: Francesca's pick "Philosophy in the Flesh" by George Lakoff, and my pick "Coming Aprt: The State of White America,[masked]" by Charles Murray. Both Karl and John Hart have offered to host in September. Let me know if you'd be willing to host in the future. I need two volunteers per month.

Since we are always planning ahead, I've started the poll for our November selections. You'll find that under the "More" menu at the top of this page. Anyone who is a member of this Meetup can submit a title for the poll. Just send me an email or post on this site, and I'll add your selection. However, I will only include one title from each member. If you submitted a title last month, I've rolled it over into the new poll. If you want to change your recommendation, just let me know.

As always, it's essential that everyone who comes to the meeting reads the book in its entirety. Please also bring a food or drink item for the potluck.

Happy reading!

 

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  • Charley H.

    really enjoyed it!

    August 24, 2013

  • Sally A L.

    great discussion

    August 23, 2013

  • Sally A L.

    Hi - Are there October meetings planned? and I just started reading A History of the Mind, by Nicholas Humphrey, which seems interesting, so maybe it could be on an upcoming poll. Also I think it would be nice if most of the books we choose were available at the library - we take this into consideration at my other 2 book clubs. Looking forward to tomorrow night

    August 22, 2013

    • Mark H.

      A History of the Mind is one of the best-written philosophy books I have ever read. Not sure I'm with him on his conclusions but it's a lovely book!

      August 23, 2013

  • Russell B.

    Rorty is not all that exciting but on the current poll there are a few selections that are worse - e.g. Derrida and Heidegger. This meetup group has had some couple of wonderful books selected - the two Pinker books and the E.O. Wilson book. And we have another wonderful book next month in the Charles Murray book. And there is a great book in the current poll, the Dialogue Concerning Two Chief World Systems. This meetup could be a great group and we could always be discussing great books. But the polls only get about 9 or 10 people voting each month. And a few of those obviously don't know what they are doing. Something is screwy when Derrida is higher in poll than Galileo. If you want a good book to discuss go to the poll and vote for Galileo. Thanks!

    August 22, 2013

    • Terry O.

      A.S. Neil noted in Summerhill that he let the children propose rules and then vote for them. His faith in Democracy was strong enough that even though they voted for some things he would rather not have had he let the vote stand. The statement that the voters don't know what they are doing because they don't vote for your book is practically the text book definition of oligarchy (an ideology that I believe Sowell would welcome). Also since only 10 to 15 people really attend the book club meetings it is not unusual that only 9 to 10 vote. If I know that I am not going to be available one month I normally don't vote because it doesn't seem fair to me

      August 22, 2013

  • Terry O.

    I think we should be cautious about who is a good scientist and who is a good philosopher. My Uncle had "Scientist" on his business card but to do that he had to be vetted. It often appears that anyone with an opinion can call themselves a philosopher. I have to admit that I find it fascinating that Orson finds Rorty boring and Sowell interesting. That really does look like an ideology showing.

    August 20, 2013

    • Russell B.

      I find Sowell very interesting and have read several of his books. And I don't have a lot of interest in Rorty. I find it interesting that it has been pointed out twice here that Orson is showing ideology. I think it's just he has an non-PC ideology.

      August 22, 2013

    • A former member
      A former member

      Even if it were PC ideology (left-wing opposition to GMOs, say) that would likely be pointed out.

      August 22, 2013

  • Terry O.

    BTW: regarding the november reading list. I will change my option for december as my book is almost losing to Karl's old removed entry. Feel like I losing the election to a dead challenger.

    1 · August 20, 2013

  • Orson

    Rorty led science to adopt politically correct standards of "competence," and "success"- eg, the late Stephen Schneider of Stanford (feted at NCAR in Boulder two years ago http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Symposium/SHS_symposium.html). And thus consensus or "system science" replaced falsification in climate science in the last two decades, as per Rupert Darwall (in "The Age of Global Warming: A History," 2013), citing one of Schneider's last lectures in February 2010.

    1 · July 25, 2013

    • Karl K.

      Orson: since when have scientists been led by philosophers to alter their behavior? How exactly have "politically correct standards..." been articulated and implemented by researchers? I think your ideology is showing.

      1 · July 26, 2013

    • Sally A L.

      as a scientist, I agree with Karl

      August 19, 2013

  • dennis c.

    Has anyone suggested, or read, Julian Jaynes' "On the origin of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind"? It sounds forbidding and technical but is not. It's a mix of psychology, philosophy, history and literature, and is frankly speculative, lightheartedly so.

    1 · August 19, 2013

    • Sally A L.

      i loved thAT book, wonder what I would think of it now

      August 19, 2013

  • dennis c.

    Orson: How could Rorty have led science to do anything? I doubt that any scientists are waiting to hear what Rorty has to say, or any other philosopher.

    1 · August 19, 2013

  • Orson

    Rorty is boring, sad to say. He is outshone by a long-line pragmatist predecessors, I'm afraid. He is, however, among the quasi-PoMo fellow travellers whose epistemological errors have led the political Left into 21st century incoherence.

    July 25, 2013

  • Orson

    Rorty is boring, sad to say. He is outshone by a long-line pragmatist predecessors, I'm afraid. He is, however, among the quasi-PoMo fellow travellers whose epistemological errors have led the political Left into 21st century incoherence.

    July 25, 2013

  • Russell B.

    How about October?

    1 · July 20, 2013

    • Cameron K.

      Good question. With the two book groups meeting one week apart and leaving four weeks for folks to read books between meetings, we're actually on a five-week schedule. So our upcoming meeting schedule is August 16 & August 23, then September 27 & October 4, and then November 1 & November 8.

      1 · July 21, 2013

  • A former member
    A former member

    The amazon link is for Camus' The Rebel.

    July 20, 2013

    • Cameron K.

      Thanks, Michael. I believe I have it fixed now.

      July 21, 2013

  • Sally A L.

    great!!

    July 20, 2013

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