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Added by Paul D.
on Jul 18, 2012.
 

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  • Paul D.

    Sitting on the Beach at Kits. I am interested to know which version of this shot people like best. The lower one is the "orginial" :). It is an HDR image using Photomatix 4 on the Surreal 2 setting with a little crisping up with topaz adjust. It is actually closest to the "real" colour at the time last night.<p>The upper one is with topaz classic black and white conversion overlayed in CS4 with a 40 % opacity. I like the way that allows me to fine tune saturation and the look of things.<p>What do you think? Details: 70-200 at 135mm, cropped down by about half in post processing. f9, ISO 200 1/50

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  • Russ K.

    The lower picture looks like sunrise or sunset, with the warm colours of a sun on the horizon. It just feels warm. The upper picture has much less of that, so it feels cooler, with the emphasis on an escape from the heat of summer by hanging out by the sea. Wendy and I gave a talk a couple of weeks ago at the Crescent Beach Photography Club with a segment that introduced the idea of arbitrary colour to photographs - an idea advanced by the Impressionists. One basic plan is to simply select all of the specular highlights and set their colour arbitrarily (say warm), and select all of the deep shadows and do likewise (say cool). This is the essence of some of the things van Gogh and Monet were trying to do. cheers, Russ

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  • Paul D.

    Thanks, it was sunset at the time. :) I still don't know which you like best. :). Can you post some examples of what you mean? It sounds very interesting?

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  • Gail S.

    I think you will find 6 of one and half a dozen of the other opinions here. I like both but the top one has a more 'realistic' feeling somehow for me. You are courageous (speaking from your heart) to ask us all what we think, and for that I salute you. Both images are well done, my friend.

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  • Paul D.

    Thanks for the input Gail. It's odd but the coloring in the lower one is probably closer to the "just before sunset" light that was actually there. However neither of them are "out of the camera". I don't think it takes any courage to ask for input. It's a great way to learn. I think that the best pictures (like yours are) should get the most critical looks and comments. One pair of eyes can never (well not those belonging to most of us) see all the possibilities that could improve a shot. Also from non-controlled tests with my friends you're dead on about 6 and half a dozen. Some like my most insanely post processed images and some just want "real". I've had to explain that there is no "real". :) Maybe we should have a virtual challenge about post processing?

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  • Gail S.

    I think it may take courage (speaking from the heart -> Dr. Brene Brown- see her presentation on Ted.com) for some people just to post their shots. Not everyone will put their work out there as easily as you or I may. Explaining that there is "no real" = interesting take. Like any form of art, the connection struck between the artist and the viewer is what sustains appreciation.

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  • Russ K.

    I'm sorry, Paul - my policy is to not post workshop materials online, out of respect for those that have paid to attend. Our class content is derived almost entirely from our personal research (which is what makes us all unique), and of course, I like to research what is interesting to me, so the things I write about online tend to reflect that. I'm sure you can experiment with arbitrary colour on your own and discover your own palette; this is the nut of our class experience, anyways. cheers, Russ

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  • Russ K.

    PS. I agree with Gail - it takes some serious chutzpah to invite criticism. cheers, Russ

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  • Trish

    I've moved this photo to the Critique Requests Album... hope it doesn't cause too much confusion! :)

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  • Paul D.

    I didn't know this existed. I'm going to put more here.

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  • Dee W.

    I agree with Gail, I like the top one better as I find the bottom one looks a little surreal to me. In fact I think it could pass for a painting.

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  • Paul D.

    Thanks Dee. Me? I still can't decide. The colours were very intense that evening and time of day.

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